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So really that's what, uh, why I said I got home from Chicago at like, we got in around 1030. By the time we unpacked the car, I was in bed just before midnight. So, um, and then this, he still thought we've been getting about 430 in Chicago. And she decided that it was important. We got up again at 430. Luckily it was 530 here. So I was okay with it. So, um, it's lunchtime in New Zealand. Okay. Finally lunchtime in New Zealand. So recallers member. Um, hi from Brazil. Hey, Pedro. Um, homeschool the dog and crate games. Recallers alumni from Columbia. Recallers student and love the podcast. You're awesome. Love, love, love that shirt. Thank you, Ashley. Recall. Sally is a recallers student and wag nation from Maine and love the podcast. Thank you, Sally. Homeschool the dog student. Uh, RJB is a YouTube follower. Welcome homeschool the dog and saving for recallers. Maybe tonight's the night. So I have a question for you because I want to make sure that what I'm going to share with you is of value of great value. Not just a value. I don't, I don't want anyone wasting their time. Oh, we got one. Somebody from, oh, it's I know who this says. Hi, Stephanie from Bowmanville. Not too, too far from Kim. Um, so I have a question because I, I don't. I want this to be maximize your time. So first of all, let me give away a prize from the good people of at for my morals. I'm going to give away a frizz or. And let's get your touch toy too. So we have a shape by dog. It's our shape by dog, 300th anniversary. And we'll give away a dog that tug toy as well. It will say dogs that right on the handle. It will have a bungee. I can't promise you it will be this color, but because that one's used and it's got spit all over it. I'm going to give away two prizes for anyone who shares this presentation. I'm talking about the layers of learning, how you can have success with whatever you're training your dog to do right now. The that's what this lives going to be about. So share it. Tell people Susan's talking about things that are in her wheelhouse. And we're going to do a random draw from anyone. If you share it, come on back and write in the comments that you shared it. And we're going to go away prizes at the end of tonight. Okay. So. Ooh, Sally says, love those tugs, but I don't have one. A lot of recallers on here. Welcome everybody. I'd love to see you. I'd love to see you. Linda man is in Recallers Wag Nation and loves the podcast. I was there for your first podcast. That's awesome Okay, so here is the question that I would like you guys to Think about before you jump in and answer this because this is going to be about today's

Live so what do you personally find to be the most difficult thing about dog training? You can give me a big general answer. You can give me a very specific answer. What do you find is the most difficult? Kim would you like to answer that one? Yes So Kim says for her it is coming up with a plan Okay legitimate legitimate Concern and I would agree with you on that um Caroline Caroline says her is how to handle when things go wrong Uh, can you write that down because I want to talk about that. That's a great one. Carolina Love it Oh another good one documentation. I meant to bring my journal out sitting on the on the counter in the house um Oh rrgb said for um For me, uh, i'm it's me. I'm I am difficult. I'm the most difficult um Figuring out what to train when I get stuck doing the same games over and over Legitimate kind of similar to what kim said and that it's planning planning what you should be doing Having the dog doing it with high distractions and leslie this is another really excellent point because I think this is one of the things that um Are How would we describe these we are a kindness built based community all of us on this live? Let's come up with it. Let's coin a term shall we How would we describe? The balanced dog training community? Maybe there's some balanced dog trainers on this live, you know, we would say the balanced community, um, the um our counterparts are Like what is a kindness based way to describe people who? are not in our world and um I believe just like I don't understand their world. I don't believe they understand ours as well because That comment about how do I grow things? Um that leslie said having the dog doing things with higher distractions. I think that's what It's even even to say those people It's just not kind that is not a kindness way to you know people people who don't believe the things that we believe How do you describe those people in a very kind way a way that reflects the way we want to approach any any living being? um, so They I I the question I see all the time is they don't believe that we can get behavior Under distractions. So we're going to talk about that tonight um Um, okay anything else what uh nuances And how do I say your name? Shim shaman shaman is that am I I apologize if it's something completely different. I think that is Like that is such a great thing to want because the greatness of dog training Really comes down to the curiosity you have about the nuances Of anything that we're doing so the question that I asked all of you I don't know why I got rid of that question. What do you find the most difficult thing about dog training?

And I want I want to tell you something that you might not be aware of There's always something difficult about dog training Like there's always something i've been doing this. I mean I started training dogs As a teenager i'm going to be 64 this year. I started Professionally training when I was in my late 20s Shami. Oh Shumi Kim did I get that right you're a linguist you're you're much better than I am like that you're so much better you got yon eggled eyed when I couldn't So So That that's the thing I want you all to understand When we're training dogs There's always going to be something that is a challenge. It's always going to happen. If there isn't, my hallucination is you are not considering the cooperation of the dog. So how could training not be a challenge? It could be if I had a tool that could make a dog do something. That I've done all my good conditioning, all the good dog training. I got great behavior in this environment, but I go in a new environment and it doesn't happen. If I resort to a tool, then I could say, probably don't have, I don't know, maybe you're still going to have difficulties. You're just going to have different difficulties. So my point is, when you're starting out, you think, oh, this is so difficult. Is it ever going to get easier? I think you just get new challenges because as was pointed out earlier tonight, you start to get a curiosity for all of those nuances. And once you get a curiosity for the nuances, then things, you see the difficulty in making things as cooperative as possible for the dog. And right now, that might be overwhelming for all, you know, for some of you. It might be overwhelming for more of you if you're brand new to this. The type of dog that you have. For example, if Prophet was my very first ever Border Collie that I ever owned, I think I would probably have been challenged by him because he's very smart. And I think that's why terriers are a challenge for a lot of dog trainers and a lot of dog owners because they're so smart. And people think that they're not smart. So they get called stubborn and stupid and independent. But they're actually quite brilliant. Quite brilliant. So some of your biggest challenges. Did you write that one down that I wanted to come back to? Okay. You can pass that along. My challenge is being consistent when I change the picture. And I think it's easy. There was a comment on YouTube. And I wanted to, and I probably will do a short about the comment to try and answer the comment. Because the comment was about somebody whose dog, I think, growled at them. And they were so disappointed.

And they were, I can't remember the exact wording they used. But they felt that they were hurt. And it broke a trust that they had with the dog. And that they can't see the dog in the same way. Their immediate thought was to get rid of the dog. And I'm like, what we all have to understand is at the end of the day, these are a different species. They can't have a conversation with us in the way that a human being can. And even then, it's not like relationships with other humans are easy. So the nuances of dog training are to help. How do we fix that dog that growled at her? It's possible to change that relationship. And I'll do a short to explain that. It is possible to change that relationship. You have to be curious about the nuances of what was different. After three years, for the first time, this woman decided to pat her dog while he was eating. And so the understanding of the nuances of why that might have happened and how you could change that situation so it never happens again in a way that's cooperative and the dog understands it. That's part of the nuances. So what we're talking about is all of the learning in any successful reinforcement-based dog training program, which as I know, if you're here watching this, that's your goal. You would love to learn more about how you can use reinforcement in our world. That means games to engage the dog. Reinforcement in games to engage your dog. And I'm going to show you a little video clip of actually Kim's dog, who is now two and a half or she's three. She just turned three. Next month. So she's two and a half ish, almost three. A video that we took when she was less than a year old, but it shows 40, 40 different little game pieces that went into what we were teaching her over that time. I'm going to show you, I'm going to show you a video clip right now. And it's on my YouTube page. If you go to my YouTube page, it's on Instagram too, but it's easier to find it on YouTube because it's our most popular short on YouTube. So I'm going to show you this little clip, but I want you to watch what my dog is doing. Don't watch me. Watch what my dog is doing and listen to what the person is saying. All right. So I'll find this clip. Here we go. There's a quote that I've fallen in love with. The magic you are looking for is in the work you're avoiding. Okay. Did you see all the little things that went on in that video? I believe profit was four months old at the oldest when I put some clips of the things we were working on together. I'm going to show it again. Count how many behaviors you can see in that little video clip. Okay.

I'll just show it one more time here. There's a quote that I've fallen in love with. The magic you are looking for is in the work you're avoiding. Fuck. The magic you are looking for is in the work you're avoiding. So many little things in there. When I look at him again, he looks like he's about 12 weeks old. Now I'm going to show you a video from yesterday of him running in agility. How the layers create brilliance in the understanding. And that's how reinforcement-based dog training works. Is you have to, I think it, I mean, it works in all dog training. This is how excellence in dog training comes out. No matter how, whatever walk of life you are coming from or training your dog in, if you do things in layers where you have a fundamental understanding, where you're growing confidence before you add challenges, and we're going to talk about what that looks like and how you can do it. I'm just going to show you now how we grow from what, like Heather said, there's at least nine or 10 different behaviors in there. How we grow from that to get to, this is a, I don't know, 30 second clip of him running agility on the weekend. We'll see you next time. I get that many of you have zero desire to do any kind of sports with your dog. But what I want you to see is the layers of learning will take, for me, I focused entirely on having an amazing family pet. And then the little things that I add in agility are only there. They're only added when I have the things that make him an amazing family pet. So by four months old, I had a phenomenal retrieve. I had a phenomenal recall. I had really good working at my side. Those are three core behaviors that make a phenomenal family pet, a phenomenal agility dog or sport dog in general. Right. And so those are the, you know, I think it was Bruce Lee that said mastery in martial arts is mastering the fundamentals. And that's what mastery in dog training is about. It's about mastering those fundamentals. The things that, as that first quote that I showed you, like those are the things that people don't find, they tend to skip over. Right. What you're looking for is found in the details of what you're missing. And that's what I want you to get. And that's why when you're in our programs, if you have any interest in agility, the gaps are filled in for you. If you have interest in having a phenomenal family pet, then it's going to be recallers or homeschool the dog. If you aren't ready for, for a year long commitment with coaching and we give you the planning.

So it's those layers that you don't just do one and done. Oh, I did crate games. Okay. I've done my retrieve. It's constant. It's constant evaluation because what we're doing is we're taking an animal. That animal has its own drives and needs, and we're trying to groom them so that those drives and needs align with ours. And so there's something called instinctive drift. That which is in the dog. If you have a sled dog, guess what they're going to instinctively do. There's a number of things. They're going to want to run. They're going to want to dig holes in your backyard. They're going to want to howl at four o'clock in the afternoon, maybe more than that. There's a number of things that is going to go back to that, which is instinctive. And so for those of us who want our dogs to have this relationship with us strictly through reinforcement and cooperation, we have to be on top of the, what does that retrieve look like now? Oh, if I have to tell them twice to bring it, what does that recall look like now? And so you're testing those elements. One of the questions was like, how do I grow behaviors and other distractions? I believe it was podcast 301. I just, I think we just released it last Friday. Please take a look at that one because that one will not only give you really good insight, but we'll share with you other resources on my YouTube channel that you can go back and look at. But that really is what a program like recallers or handling 360 does for people is it gives you the layers that you should be adding at the time when you should be adding them. Does that make sense? Yeah. Have I lost anybody on this one? So question ID 10 T I know what that spells, but what do you make of a dog ignoring you and not trying to comply to a known cue, but then all of a sudden remembers and does that when a treat or a toy shows up? Isn't that a dog blowing you off or testing you? No, no, it's not. It's what they understand the ABCs of dog training. Antecedents, behavior, consequences. When the antecedents, which is all of the environmental conditions, what the dog sees, what the dog smells, what the dog hears, what are the distractions in the environment, the antecedents include the scent of a cookie or the presence of a cookie. That changes what you've asked for. You've asked me to sit when you're holding a cookie. That is different than you asking me to sit at the bunny farm when there's no cookies around. So what we have to do is we have to have the dog make the good choices and growing those in these layers that I'm talking about. I'm going to show you this video of belief in Kim.

So the question is, what do you consider a good foundation? Well, the skills that I showed you in that little clip with Profit, there was a number of things. He was staying in reinforcement zone. He would retrieve. He would drive for a toy. I'm going to show you this little clip with 40 different little behaviors. Now, keeping in mind, some of these behaviors are specific to the sports that Kim wants to play. I would say less than five or six out of the 40 that you're going to see. And you're going to say, well, that's just the same thing. Recall. You just did a recall. I think there's probably three or four different recalls built in here in this video clip. Okay. So shall I show it now? Or do you guys have any more questions that you want me to? No more questions. But you have a couple of questions. Okay. All right. So I will show you that video now then. Hold on. First video, I'm going to show you two videos. First video, I believe she was a few months old. Now she was sick as a puppy. So Kim brought her home and then she had to go into the hospital for a couple of weeks and then she was healing. So her training was set back a little bit. But this first video, I decided, Kim, it's time we test her recall. So this is younger than the video that I'm going to show you next. So I said, let's test her recall. She's just under five months old in this video. And Kim gets nervous about these tests that I set up for her. And because she thinks belief is going to make the wrong choice, but it's okay. So what if she makes the wrong choice? Keep that question in mind. And I'm just going to show you video number one. Good girl. Baby. Good guy. Frank. Hey. Nice. Went by all the cookies. All the cookies in the bowl. Good girl. Good girl. Come and pick up a cookie and give it to her and then keep tugging. Wait. Got it. Ah, tug. The word's tug. It's tug. It's tug. It's not. It's tug. Okay, come down to this bowl. Pick one. It's tug. It's tug. It's tug. Thank you. Cookie. Tug. Ah, super good. Come down to this bowl. This is roast beef. This is a hard one. This is a harder one. It's a harder one. You've got to fold on more. It's a harder one. It's a hard one. Thank you. Cookie. Tug. Super star. That is so good. So good. Go to the next one and tell her sit and tell her she can have a cookie. Okay. Thank you. Sit. Tell her. Search. Search. Yay. And tug. Tug. Tug. Super good. Super good. Okay. What did you see? What different skills or decisions, choices did that dog have to make? The very first one is obvious. So number one, she was playing crate games. So Kim opened the crate and called her and she ran by. Now, Kim's a long way away.

She had to run by, I don't know, six, eight to 10 different bowls of super exciting food rewards. And she's a terrier cross. She loves her food rewards. Terrier cross with papillon and border collie. So all dogs who love food. So that was the first choice. So what, how can that dog, that puppy, five month old puppy, how is it that she made that decision? It's your choice. Tiffany says, that's a big game that was demonstrated there. So it's your choice. Crate games. Number one, then it's your choice was demonstrated. Another thing when you want to know, absolutely Sally, the layers, what, when you, when we're talking about nuances, can anyone tell me a big nuance that happened in that, in that game and the demonstration there, there was a massive nuance of dog training that so many people would miss. So many people would miss this. You know, it's, it's when, when you say nuance, it means it's a small detail, the small detail, but makes a massive impact on the training. So when we are dealing with a system that does not want to punish the dog. So that's a good one. Keep Kim kept an eye on the dog. It's not the nuance I met. I talked about, but Sally, that's an important one because you have to do it. You know what choice the dog's making. So Kim was tugging and then she got very, very close to the bowl and she kept tugging. So many dogs would have gotten near the food and said, Oh, I like that better. And would have just stared at the food. Tell me I can have that now. But we'd already worked through that nuance. You tug until we cue you to release the tug. So these nuances, you know, people would say, Oh, maybe it's more difficult to train this way. It's just that you have to be more observant. But at the end of the day, it's a gift. We choose not to use a correction when our dog makes a wrong choice. Therefore, we have the gift that we have to be more observant of our dogs, which makes us better at dog training. We're continuing to grow. All the way up until I told her to let her eat from the bowl. And you notice I said, call her. And I had to tell Kim, call her three times. Why was that? Did Kim not hear me? No. Kim was afraid her dog was going to make a poor choice. But I, the dog had made such perfect choices all the way up. I wanted to give her the chance to make a poor choice. So there's a nuance in my training that Kim has a hard time grabbing a hold of. Okay. I can't really tug in front of the food. I know I can set up my environment and antecedents better. Right. So do you think that Kim was always able to take that food crazy puppy and tug in front of a bowl of food? Absolutely not.

And what was in that food bowl? There was chicken. There was a big bowl of roast beef. There was all kinds of really high value. Do you believe that's what she chose to ask the dog to tug in front of? Absolutely not. So these are the layers that we talk about in all of our classrooms, in all of our classrooms. Handling 360 for those who want to do agility. Recallers for those who want an amazing family pet. Even if you're just, okay, Susan, I'm going to dip my toe in the water and I want to know a little bit more about your program. Then you might just be doing like crate games or pedicure pleas where you teach the dog will learn how to lay there and enjoy getting their nails trimmed. That's why they're pedicures now. All right. All right. So now I'm going to show you the 40. Keeping in mind, some of these are sports specific, but this is a dog who's less than a year old now. And we're doing, and I just want to share 40 different games that help her. I mean, they're just fun to train. They're fun. They build a relationship, but they help teach the dog that when I ask you to sit, when I ask you to come, when I ask you to lay down, when I ask you to do whatever, it doesn't matter if I have a cookie in my hand or not. It doesn't matter. It's a cue that means I want to see the response. Okay. All right. So here is the 40 layers. All right. All right. All right. All right. Let's go.

Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. loose leash walking, getting sloppy. And yeah, she was so small because she was a nine months old, I think when we did a lot of those, some of it was done when she was younger, but, and so that's what our program is. And that's what I think when we, when we work in a way that is focusing on the reinforcement, focusing on our human mechanics, focusing on how we can get better cooperation with our dogs, there'll be things where we're challenged. And that's why I think it's important. If you are in a program like ours, that we have coaches from all over the world that are in the program that you can write in and ask questions when you are up against a tough spot. Like if you're going, when I had people who would come here for lessons once a week in a class or would come for private lessons with me, then I would see them once a week. But now our students can interact with our coaches and me when I'm in the classrooms on a regular basis. And if you're in handling 360, it's Max and Enya and I that are contributing. And so what I wish all dog owners could learn is we need to handle hard better. Meaning when stuff gets frustrating for us as handlers or as dog owners, we can't get frustrated at the dog. We can't say, I think you're blowing me off, or I think you're being stubborn, or I think you're taste testing me, or I think you're being willful. We have to say, how can I handle this stuff better? How can I reflect at what just happened and find what my role is in that? Okay, here's a question. Do you think non-negotiable authority do this because I said so has a place in dog training? I think there are some things that I want my dog to do. Like a recall is life-saving. But there are times when my dog has permission to override that. Like, and there are, like I want my dogs to know, for example, when my dog's going to the bathroom at night and I call them and they're in the middle of a poop. I mean, they try to walk in a tripod and peek around the corner at me and I feel bad. Like you shouldn't have the right to have a poop without feeling. You need to like show up. I remember one time my dog Buzz, who was trained

just like I train my dogs now in meaning that I didn't use corrections with him. But I didn't do as good a job at applying the reinforcement as I do today because Buzz was born in 1996. So, I mean, that was 20 more than, is it 20 or 30 years now? 20 years anyway. 30? I'm not going to do math at the top of my head. So one time, Buzzy, I had sent him up to the top of the stairs. I was training on the field and I went to train another dog. There was a hornet's nest up there. He was lying in the midst of a hornet's nest. I heard him start like making all these goofy noises, like not screaming, but yelping. And the poor guy was getting stung by hornets. I'd like to give my dogs like the permission to disobey me. But no, do I believe that the dogs, those are the only times when I feel it's okay for my dogs not to do as they're told. But I believe I will put my dog's ability to do what I ask them against anybody. So can I take, somebody challenged me in a comment on YouTube last week? Can you walk your dogs off leash at a park in the city? Of course I can. Could I walk off leash on a busy street? They asked me, could I or would I? Could I? 100%. Would I? 100%? No. Why would I want to do that? Why would I want to risk my dog's life? So there are things. So here's a question. I need to pull this quilt from your face. You can opt out this time. Yeah, I would imagine that would be painful, but I would imagine I'd rather a veterinarian do it personally. Okay. So the point is you can have success this way. Profit is an incredible driven agility dog, incredibly driven. Do you know what problem a lot of incredibly driven agility dogs have? What's the idea is they do not like waiting at the start line. And that is just a bunch of games that we play that helps them to understand that this, what you love playing agility comes through you holding that position. So whatever it is that might seem hard now, including pulling quills out of your dog's face, Sally. The only problem with that is you don't get to practice that it's a one-off. So the, the pedicure please positioning, the positioning of cooperation will help the dog. But at the end of the day, if it's something that's going to be painful, I'd rather I go to a veterinarian to get that done. So all of these things, okay, I, I, I want you to think bigger at what's possible with you and your dog to know there's going to be stuff that's hard. Don't hope that it gets easier. Hope that you get better. You get better because then you can handle hard better.

It's just not going to get easier. We all have challenges with our dogs. That's, that's just it. The more you learn, the more nuances you see, the more you want. And when you want to, to try different things, then there's always going to be something that's difficult. And that's the fun thing of interacting with your dog. Okay. You look, there are some questions here. First question. Um, what class should I take after homeschool the dog? Debbie, 100% recallers, recallers. Now, if you have an interest in dog agility, um, you could ask our coaches in homeschool, the dog that, do you think I'm ready for agility? We have, um, we want to make sure everybody is in the right place. So number one, let me just say all of our programs, we give you a grace period because we want to make sure you are in the right place. So if you joined handling 360 and at any point in the program, you say, Whoa, this is a little overwhelming for me and my dog. We have this guarantee. We will pause handling 360 for you. You go back and do recallers. And then when you feel like your retrieve, reinforcement zone, recall, are, and your relationship are much better than you can come back and say, okay, I want, I want to carry on with, with handling 360. So Debbie, where, where should you go? It really depends on your interests. Um, but definitely the most logical choice would be recallers for sure. Um, I have issues, neck and shoulder issues that make games like tug hard. Can I still benefit from programs? Absolutely. Emily, because there are people that only use food in our programs. We encourage people to use tug because it's a great way to change the dog's emotional state, but you could do things like just tossing a frisbee and having the dog bring it back and drop it in your lap. Like there's a lot of ways to improvise the tug game for sure. Um, how do you help a frustrated, overexcited dog? A lot of times frustration, not always, but a lot of times frustration and overexcitement comes from lack of clarity. And there is something in the antecedent arrangements or in your mechanical skills that is creating that, uh, lack of clarity. So I would really get like, look at your videos of your training and say, is there a 100% clarity or am I asking for too much? So that is a, a big thing. And I, do you know how I can say that with a great deal of confidence? Because when I look back at my first dogs, um, my Jack Russell Terriers for sure, Twister, um, and decaf for sure. There was a lot of frustration. I got redirected nipping,

um, from both of them and a lot of, um, frustration when I, with decaf, when I would put her in a crate, she would sometimes turn around and bite at the bars and with buzz, my border collie buzz. So, once I really focused on my mechanic, my mechanics as a dog trainer, the frustration level and the overexcitement level of my dogs really, really went down. Um, how many games should I be working on at one time? Oh, that's such a good question. And the answer is, it depends on the dog and your level of excellence at each game. So, you know, some of the simpler ones, like we always say you can play many games at the same time, but I would recommend you like moved. If you were sitting on the couch to play one game, then you stand up and go to another side of the room to play a different game. So you would move to, if, you know, if you have a small area, just to four different corners and then one in the middle there, you've got five different behaviors that you can work on because the part of the antecedent arrangement is where you're sitting, standing, kneeling on the floor. Um, what's near, are you, do you have your back against the wall or is the dog's back against the wall? So all of those things can create new antecedent arrangements so that you can start teaching a new game. So it's all about like in one session, I wouldn't train a puppy. I would do like one little game. Let's say I'm, I do some collar grab or some hand targets with my puppy. And then I would, I would tug them to a new session. Um, have them, then maybe, maybe I'm working on crate games. I do take them over to the crate. We do some crate games. I usually start with crate games. I'm sure you all do too. And then I might go to hot zone and work another little bit hot zone. That would be like three to five minutes. And we probably had 10 different breaks of tugging in that three to five minutes. So there's a lot of gains that happen, but they happen quickly so that the dogs don't ever get overtired, overstimulated. They don't leave work. They don't start sniffing. They really develop this drive and focus for you. How do I navigate the regression of boundaries, pushing of an adolescent dog, Michelle? Exactly what I said off the top. You're going to say, what, what haven't I been putting money in the bank for? Because if something has regressed, it hasn't really regressed. You've probably got some instinctive drift. You've probably got some environmental reinforcement for something that is in opposition to what you want. And you've got to

figure out where is that reinforcement? How can I do better? And if you aren't sure, and you're one of our students, you send us a video and one of the coaches will give you some feedback on that. Okay. So, so all of this is possible. It's not magical. All of this is possible. And it really, it depends, it depends. Oh, you know what I forgot to do? I forgot to give away a propel. So, in our last live, I said, if you guys had a gem and you posted it to, oh, look at my camera's now getting funky on me. You posted it to our Facebook page. I would give away a propel, which is that cute little inflated disc. I think I have one here. And I didn't give it, I didn't give it away. I'm going to get away right now. It's going to Tanya Hack. And Tanya's gem was, the gem that most resonated with me was the question, where is the imbalance of reinforcement? My dog has been getting so much reinforcement from her environment for so many years that it's no wonder that I've been struggling with transferring the value to me. I need to ask that question daily when I play with my dog so that I can be better at arranging antecedents to create a safer environment where confidence and connection can grow. So, do you see how I just remembered that I didn't announce who was going to win our gem? Because we were just talking about antecedent arrangements. I'm like, wait a minute, that sounds familiar. Tanya, congratulations. And thank you for that gem. That was lovely. So, we have right now, if you go to, shapebydog.com forward slash 300, where we are getting to the end of our week of positivity, where we have been celebrating our 300th episode. We have right there, you'll find all of our programs there. You can click on any program. It will open up to a new page. You can learn about that program. If you have questions, you can write, there's a chat button at the end. You can write in and somebody on the team is going to answer your question. And if you have any questions right now, I'd be happy to answer any questions as well. Oh, you have more questions? How do you work through chewing grass on a less and outside? I would just have the hot zone. And I would work through that like in your backyard, right? So that you can have a hot zone in the house. And when I say hot zone, I mean like a little raised dog bed. See profit is on one and you can see waffles is on one. We use those. We use them everywhere. And what you're doing is you get them up there, you call them out to work and then you send them back up there. They don't get a chance to chew grass. You grow the time

on grass. So you're giving them more of an opportunity when they learn to make great choices. That's what it is. Setting a dog up for making great choices and let them eat grass at a different time. You might go for a walk and I use the cute sniffies and my dogs can do what they want. They were out there chowing down on grass this morning when we were out for our morning walk. It's the spring grass is just coming through and it must taste yummy. I saw another question. Yep. I'm hoping if a son trained dog was the best program to do together. I'm not often different. That's a great question. I would say, Suzanne, can you give me a little more information? I don't want to steer you wrong. How old is your son? How old is your dog? Always for our foundation, all of my foundation for my dogs. When there are just the recaller games, that's how recallers came to be. I put all of the foundational games that I was training my dogs to do. And I'm like, we'll just put this in a program and people can learn what, what it is that I do with my own dogs. It's a year long program. It will probably take no more than four to six months to get through all 40 games. We have a lot of extra things in there, a lot of it because the program has been around for 10 years. So we have like teaching a dog to retrieve is a bonus. It's called the bring me game, which we will have available at some point as a separate product. It's free when you join recallers pedicure, please teaching your dog how to love having their nails done. It's another program. So you'll be done the recallers, but remember I said you keep going back and polishing because as you go, but you're with us for a year. So as you're working on some of these other programs, you're going to go back and polish some of your games in, in recallers. So recallers would be my suggestion. How do you increase a dog, a dog's drive boxer beagle mix? Well, a boxer beagle will have a lot of drive. Maybe not for what we want them to have right now, but we just start small with a simple game. Once the dog, once the dog learns, they can earn reinforcement by playing the game. They want to play the game. Ralph is five months. My son is 27 yellow lab. Perfect. Oh my God, Suzanne, please get in re-in recallers. 100%. It will be amazing for both of you, for all three of you. And Ralph is a very cute name. Ralph. Ralph is a lab, five months old. So every dog has, thank you, Teresa. Every dog has tons of drive. Most of the time, like with my dogs, when, when profit arrived, I think he was 11 or 12 weeks old when he got here,

almost 12 weeks old. He, his drive was incredible for getting a toy and running as far away from me as possible. And so that was interesting. And when I mentioned this in the little list that we have with all the people who got puppies, one of the girls said, yeah, his uncle's exactly the same way. He's three years old. He still won't bring me back a toy. And I wish I, I do have a video. I didn't load it to show tonight because I didn't know I was going to tell the story. And it took me maybe five days to change that around so that he just loved bringing me the toy. And so all of our dogs have drives that are unique to them. Most of my Border Collie puppies were really good at bringing me the toy right away, but I also got them between seven and eight weeks and not at 12 weeks. Most of my dogs, but they all have different drives. And so all that we do in this program is help you build up the drive and eliminate the, so the drive for whatever is, you know, let's say it's chasing squirrels. Well, we're going to decrease access to chasing squirrels, increase access to playing fun games with you until you can bring fun games near the squirrels. And they go, I don't see any squirrels. Do you see squirrels? No, I don't see squirrels. That's how it works. Okay. So I'm going to share one winner of a tug from four of my morals going out to Heather McCloud, the one and only Heather McCloud. Congratulations. We're going to give our last frisbee away at the end today. Do you guys have any more questions about the programs? Yes, Suzanne, see you in recallers. Post a picture of Ralphie. I want to see. I want to see Ralphie. You don't have to post a picture of your son. That's okay. Okay. How much time should I spend working on my puppy versus putting it in half a long time? Oh, that's an excellent question, isn't it? So the question is how much time, so do you want to say it to me again? How much time should I spend like training my puppy? How much time should I spend playing with my puppy versus letting him play and entertain himself? Okay. How much time should I spend playing with my puppy versus letting him entertain himself? Okay. Amazing question. Thank you for that question. And here's what life looks like for my puppies. I have what we call a gated community. So it's an X-pen. I have, I have two, three of them set up. You can just have one and move it. So I have an X-pen in my kitchen and in the X-pen, there's often a crate, not always the crate. You can have it beside the X-pen as well. And I have one in my office where I'm working. And so I'll do

a little training session with the puppy. And then if I can supervise it, I'll let it play with, there'll be chewies there. Sometimes I have puppy bombs in there, um, a food toys like that they can scent and there'll be a dog bed that they can lie on. Now, if my puppy ever starts destroying any toys that are, shouldn't be destroyed, like what buffies I give them things they can destroy like paper, toilet paper rolls with, with cookies inside. We call them puppy bombs. I want that puppy to learn how to relax away from me. That's an important one that I think a lot of people miss that. Yes, we have fun together, but you need to know how to be independently chill by yourself. So they need to be able to sniff things. They need to be able to like, you've done some stuff. Now you're going to chill and then I'm going to do some work. And then like, if I have a puppy, I train them. Let me just think of my routine. So they sleep beside me in a crate beside the bed. I get up in the morning, I take them out. I let them go for a pee and I put them back in that crate. I don't say a word to them, put them back in the crate. And then I shower. I do my morning routine. I don't come back to them for two hours. Then I come and I do some training. I give them most of their breakfast in that training session, maybe 75% of their breakfast. I give them a little bit before I even do any training. And then they go on that X-pen. Well, they go outside for a little bit in case they need to potty then. And then we go back in the X-pen while I might make my breakfast, but I'm supervising them because they, I don't want them to have an accident in that X-pen. And so then they they're, they play and do crazy things. And then, um, maybe, I don't know, I'll take them out for out, out in the yard and then, um, I'll, I'll go to work and they'll hope I won't have enough. So probably a couple hours later, we get them out again. If you, when I had to work and I had to leave the puppy, I would make sure that I would, um, have somebody, if I couldn't be home at lunch, I would have somebody come and let the puppy out and play one of my engagement games, AKA recaller games. And then when I would get home around dinner time, before I cooked dinner, same thing, a little training session, then they're in the X-pen while I'm making my dinner. And then they get time to run around. I didn't mention that in the mornings, they get time to run around the kitchen too. So they're not always in an X-pen. I am supervising that though. So I don't, my puppies never learn to

chew on things. They never learned to chew on furniture. They never learned to chew on shoes. They don't learn those things because I'm all, if they're loose, I'm supervising them. When they go on the X-pen, it's usually to play in an enrichment game, um, or to just have an app because they've, I've, I've played with them. They've worn themselves out and then they go and have a nap. And yeah, in the evening, it's the same thing. They get to rip around. I'll let them have, depending on the age of the puppy, they have time with my adult dogs and, um, they play with them a little bit. I will call them out to me. I love doing that. The demonstration that you saw in that video with belief as a puppy being called away from tater salad. So that's what it looks like. So they have to learn how to be on their own, but I don't want them on their own learning how to destroy my house or how to pee on the carpet or how to chase squirrels in the window. Um, there was a question about do we have a payment plan? Yes, we do for all of our programs, except the pedicure please one. I don't think it does. Um, but I could be wrong even about that one. Speaker 1 1st. Um, okay. My dog has high prey drive. Will tug make it higher? The way we play tug, it has very, very clear rules. Tug when I ask, leave it when I ask. And tug is a great, great way to take a dog who naturally has prey drive and help them to learn to control that prey drive around you. Um, if you have kids, I encourage the same thing. Supervised by you. When I say we use the word strike, you grab. When we say the word give or out or mine is what I use. Then you, you give it up. You give it. Okay. Um, handling 360 versus agility nation. Handling 360 first, absolutely. Oh my gosh. It's amazing. We just read it. We just reshot. Um, so the three of us were working like 12 hour days shooting video here for 17 days and we didn't even finish the program. So we're, we're, it's a complete, um, redo of handling 360. So, um, we've got seven of the 10 classrooms done. And in two weeks, Kim and I fly to Germany and we meet up with the rest of the team and we are shooting another 10 days of video to finish the classroom. So definitely it's the first one to do because there's so much fundamentals. It like, it is layered where, uh, agility nation is, oh, why don't you try a little bit of this and a little bit of that, a little bit of this. Agility nation is great. Um, if you, if you like, how do I teach a seesaw? None of that handling 360 is about your dog learning to follow your body language. You learning to control your dog. Um,

thank you, Rebecca. Rebecca said loves, love handling 360. Okay. So yes, the one to start with is handling 360 and you can add agility nation later. We make it very attractive for you to add agility nation later. Just join a homeschool, the dog. My two labs like playing with each other. Is that okay without me? You know, it depends. I love my dogs playing with each other. When would I say it could be a problem? How rough do they get? Do they like damage your home? Um, can you interrupt ideally when I call a dog in the midst of play? You should come in, come immediately to me. You don't like check with Rocky to see if, is it all right if we stop now? Cause like she's calling. No, I said your name one time is all I say it. You get over here. All right. And they do, they do. So I love my, I love watching my dogs play with actually, I think I just, I might've just posted it. Um, this I think it was posted a story today. Did I not Kim? Did I post a story with them playing? Oh no on Instagram. If I, are you saying you don't check my Instagram page religiously? So, uh, uh, I'm just checking. No, I did not post it yet. I'm going to do it after this live. So I was just taking a video this morning of profit in the puppy play. So love to watch my dogs play, but it is definitely something that's a great reinforcement for them. So I use that reinforcement to build value for something I love, which is a recall. Um, yes, that we work first. We can't demand it without working it. Um, uh, six month puppy, super calm in the crate or X-pen when I'm home alone, but barks a lot. If my hubby or toddler are there mostly in the evening, I am in recallers. Then that is a great question to ask in recallers, but I just want you to, to qualify. The puppy is calm when there's the two of you, but if there's the three of you, that's when she barks, or is it, she barks when it's the husband and and the child, but not you. Cause that's different. Because if she barks, if it's the husband and the toddler, but not you, then I would suspect when she barks, somebody might be letting her out when she's barking. And then I would say, um, I don't want to get anyone in trouble, but that's a possibility. Um, struggling with wanting to train several times a day, but I feel limited because I don't want to give too many treats. That's awesome. Neither do I 10% of daily caloric, uh, is max and treats. So I use their daily food rations all, but maybe 20%. I like to give, like, if it's feeding time, I want them to see that they're getting something. So, um, I would definitely be using your food rations.

And the second thing is you should be building in things like I rarely use food in my training. Um, depending on what I'm teaching, um, depending on what I'm teaching, I like to use toys a lot. So it could be a tug toy. It could be a thrown toy. It could be, um, just a game that they play with the toy. So yeah, use your meals and build in other reinforcements that are not just cookies. Um, but I love that you want to train several times a day, giving you a big hearts up for that. Okay. If you have gone over during this live that has now gone on a little over an hour, if you've gone into shapebydog.com forward slash 300 and joined a program during this hour, write in the comment, which one you joined. And I'm going to give you a big, Hey, not Hey, like you're a bad person, but Hey, like, Whoa. Um, well, I get a notice when recallers is expiring so I can renew, um, without a lapse. Yes. And you will be very surprised that we invite you to renew at a ridiculously low investment compared to not that recallers should be double the price. I, we have not, we have not raised the price of recallers for 10 years and it really should have been doubled by the, by now because everybody around us has, but we just feel it's such an important program for everyone to be a part of. So, um, even though we keep adding new programs to it yet, once you're in it for a year, we still bring you back for even a lot less, um, how soon soon should I start the program before my puppy comes or after definitely before, because what we're doing is educating you. So you can start that education without the puppy. And the best of all is if you do start the more, the more you get excited about this topic. Can you tell excellence in dog training is about human mechanics. End of story. It isn't about the dog you get. It's about your mechanics. So if we can help you rehearse your mechanics before you get your puppy, if we can help you understand how to arrange aniseed arrangements before you get your puppy, life is going to be so good for that puppy. It's going to be so much easier for you. So please. Yes. Before difference between wag nation and recallers, okay, that's a good question. Wag nation is a membership, meaning you get pieces of unrelated content every month, two pieces every month. You learn a trick and you learn some dog training thing. It might be a skill. It might be, um, an application of science, but you get really good dog training and a really good trick every month, but they aren't built on anything.

Recallers is a strategic layered approach to teaching your dog to come on their call, to bring you a toy, to, uh, walk beside you, to, um, listen when you ask them to do things too. So it's a layered approach to building the most amazing relationship with your dog. So it is definitely very, very strategic. Um, how do you re how do you root transition from your puppy routine and is your routines based on your puppy's temperament? No, I think I rate my puppies are pretty much the routine is very similar. Um, maybe my play style changes a little bit with the puppies depending on the temperature. That's the thing. So how do we transition? We transition when the puppy is made really good choices. The first big transition for me is how good their potty training goes, meaning that they're not having any accidents in the house for some dogs. That's immediate. And for others, it might take longer. And so that the freedom, the increase of freedom happens when they learn potting is best on outside, then we start giving them, um, and I mean, if I had a puppy, I have had puppies that have never had a mistake in the house. That doesn't mean they got free access to the house their whole life. So that's one qualifier. And, um, and then it's like puppies need to sleep a lot. I think most people don't allow their puppies or don't schedule. Um, what is L.O.H. call it? SRTs. Yeah. Puppies need scheduled rest time. So when puppies don't get their SRTs, the scheduled rest time, they get nippy, they get nippy. So if you've got a puppy that's doing a lot of nippy, more SRTs. Um, so we, so we gradually transition based on the puppy. So another big transition is for them not sleeping in a crate and then sleeping loose. And for me, that means they're sleeping on a dog bed somewhere in the room. And, um, that can happen. That usually for my dogs is around nine months to a year, but it could be 15 months depending on the puppy. Does pedicure, my dog hates baths as pedicure, please only deal with nails or other. Um, so pedicure, please is a great place to learn about cooperative care. I can't remember if it's in there or if it's in an episode in Wag Nation where I talk about introducing a bath. So you can write into the team because Sharon would know that for sure. Um, Maria says, how do you divide your time between all your dogs? Oh, Maria, don't make me feel guilty. Because the truth is it's not an equal division. And you know what my guilt has had me done is I just hire more people to help me. And I know that's not a position that a lot of you can be in, but that is

when you get to be 63 years old and you live alone, you can, you can allocate your resources any way you want to. And for me, that's big because I want my dogs to have amazing and rich lives. I do. And so, um, um, making sure that they all get really intentional special time is important to me. Uh, yeah, pedicure, please. I don't think I mentioned the bath, but I, but I know that we've talked about it. It's either on YouTube or it might be in Wag Nation. So Maria, how do I do this? My younger dogs for sure get more one-on-one time. And obviously the puppy gets the most one-on-one time. And then my older dogs get more group time, more group time. So as older dogs, but they also will get, um, like Swagger, who's the oldest at 14, it's easy for me to, because he, there's a game that he loves that doesn't take any time at all. And I can play that with him every single day. And, um, it's the wow game in Recallers for those that know the Recallers, his favorite game on the planet. He loves it. He loves to play it every day. And he also loves to come out and watch me train other dogs. So, um, yeah, Recallers gives you things that you can make your dog, like the games that through your whole dog's life, they, they can be enriched. Uh, is handling 360 good for prep for rally obedience? I would say Recallers is probably better prep for rally obedience for sure. Really. It's really good prep for rally obedience. Um, My dog, I'm training in the basement dog is so excited. It's dangerous going down the stairs tip for slowing them down. Recallers, reinforcement zone. Kevin's had to work on that with Waffle since he was in the house because he just wants to jump down the stairs. Yes. I think it's a great fitness exercise. All of my dogs, you know what to go in Chicago, how many stairs would you say we had to go down to get to where the, uh, so there was probably 20 stairs to like you, there was a landing and then another long set of stairs to go to the ring. Every time you ran, you had to go up. So when you were done, you went up one set of stairs, a different set of stairs, and then to go down to, so once the border collies learned what was at the bottom of the stairs, guess what? Cray, cray, cray, cray, cray time. I'm so grateful that because of a pro of a game that's in recall, there's a reinforcement zone that I spent time with my dogs teaching them to walk in reinforcement zone up and down stairs. I think it's a great fitness exercise for them. So you want to play agility. You have to walk in reinforcement zone down these stairs. That was profit's rule. This is rule was you can

scream like a banshee and pull me down the stairs. I'm happy with that because different dogs require different rules. Okay. I'm going to wrap it up. Thank you for your questions. Listen, right now, our weekend, our week of positivity is, well, week of positivity goes on forever, but our Shaped by Dog 300th episode special promotion on all of our classrooms is ending tomorrow at midnight. So please, please check out the page. If you are not a member, please consider looking, look at even pedicure, please look at homeschool the dog. If you are committed to living this life with your dog and you want myself and my team to coach you for the next year, Recolors is a place to be. If you have interest in agility, then Handling 360 is a great place to start. So thank you to all of our students who've been on this live and I'm going to give away another toy. Our Shaped by Dog frizzer, we're going to give away two. Katarina Hansatako. Did I do that good? I got Katarina Hansatako. You know, it's a, it's a good thing. I'm, I'm good at dog training because languages were never my first like talent. The wow game is a recaller game. It's in recallers. Yes. Um, I could probably demonstrate part of it with who I think that, um, well, profit knows it. I too bad I didn't bring Swagger out here. He would love to demonstrate the wow game. Maybe if there's time tomorrow, we'll come back. Um, just as a, just a fun little. So then why don't we now, if there was something that stood out in your mind for today's live, like, Oh my gosh, that was such an aha moment. Then please jump over to who my either into the, our Facebook page, our dogs, that Facebook page, or if you're not on Facebook, you can go to YouTube. You have to wait for this YouTube to end because when I end this stream, YouTube deletes all the comments that you put in here, all of these amazing comments, they delete them. So when we end the stream, come on back to YouTube, like this video, add your comment and tell us what was your gem or two? What was your big aha from tonight's live? And, um, tomorrow we're wrapping up tomorrow. And so I'm going to, um, look at my schedule and see where I can squeeze in just to, you know what Swagger wants to do a demo. So we'll do at least that and answer any more questions you have about the program. Okay, guys, thank you to everyone. Thank you to Kim for being here and, um, we'll see you in the programs.