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coasting(안주하기)의 정의: 과거보다 나아졌다는 이유로 그것이 최선이라고 여기는 태도.good enough(충분히 좋은) 결론 혹은 avoid-any-more-hard-work(더 이상의 힘든 노력을 피하려는) 사고방식.training(훈련), daily lifeskills(일상생활 기술), work or sports activities(일 또는 스포츠 활동)에 통합된 많은 자료는 과학적 연구에서 유래함.rat in a box(상자 속의 쥐) 혹은 pigeon on a table(탁자 위의 비둘기) 실험.BF Skinner의 operant conditioning(조작적 조건형성) 시연 영상을 찾아볼 것(매우 놀라운 경험이 될 것이나, 많은 양의 커피가 필요함).restricted environments(제한된 환경).learning about dogsrate of response(반응률).press of a lever(레버 누르기) 혹은 peck to a disc(디스크 쪼기)의 횟수.was of its time(그 시대의 산물).coasting(안주)하는 것에 불과함.coasting(안주하기)에 대한 경계inherited presumptions(상속된 전제/가정)을 부지런하고 세밀하게 살펴야 하며, 단순히 과거의 방식을 답습해서는 안 됨.coasting(안주)을 변명하는 대표적인 문구들:positive reinforcement training(긍정 강화 훈련)의 함정:positive reinforcement(긍정 강화)로 전환하려는 동기는 강하지만, 그 이후에 멈춰 서 있는 경우가 많음.positive reinforcement 하나만으로 충분하다고 여기는 듯한 모습.sloppy(엉성)해질 가능성이 다분하며, 이전보다 더 나빠질 위험이 있음.return to me(이리로 돌아와) 콜에서 80%의 성공률은 충분하지 않음.joy and pleasure(기쁨과 즐거움)가 동반되는 것을 기대함.was of its time(그 시대의 산물)일 수 있음을 인지하고, 더 배우고 더 나아지려는 힘든 과정을 회피하며 안주하지 말아야 함.leave it(기다려/그거 놔둬) 프로토콜의 예시aah-aah 소리를 내어 손에서 음식을 가져가지 못하게 하는 것.extinction process(소거 과정)에 대한 비판extinction process(소거 과정)에 의존하고 있음.resilience(회복탄력성)를 길러준다는 점.reinforcement(강화)가 제공됨.reinforcement(강화)와 학습의 부작용reinforcement(강화)가 제공됨.reinforcement(강화)가 효과적일 수 있음.reinforcement(강화)를 받는 경우, 우리는 단지 혼란만을 심어주는 것임.impulse control(충동 조절)을 가르친다고 생각하겠지만, 현실은 다름."as much as the threat of speed cameras reduces speeding: when they think they can be caught." — (과속 단속 카메라의 위협이 과속을 줄이는 정도와 같음: 단속될 수 있다고 생각할 때만 줄어듦)cue인 "leave it"의 한계와 대안cue(큐) 추가의 정당화 논리:"in real life should your dog approach a chicken bone on the ground you can shout 'leave it' and they will halt their progress." — (실생활에서 개가 바닥에 떨어진 닭뼈에 접근할 때 "leave it"이라고 외치면 개가 멈출 것이라는 논리)impulse control(충동 조절)도 아니고 positive reinforcement(정적 강화)를 통한 training(훈련)도 아님."Perhaps we all know the outcome of 'no speed cameras on this road' …….. speeding?" — (아마 우리 모두는 "이 도로에는 과속 단속 카메라가 없음"의 결과를 알고 있을 것임... 과속하게 됨?)"why is it necessary to let the dog make the error to be able to remove it? How is that in the sphere of positive reinforcement?" — (오류를 제거하기 위해 왜 개가 오류를 범하게 내버려 둬야 하는가? 그것이 어떻게 positive reinforcement(정적 강화)의 영역인가?)Errorless learning(오류 없는 학습)에 관해서는 Susan Friedman의 글을 참조할 것.foundation(기초) 학습 방향foundation skills(기초 기술)를 쌓는 어린 학습자들은 환경을 '무언가를 벌 기회'로 인식해야 함."oh cool, a training opportunity, where’s My Person and what can I do for them?" — (오 멋져, 훈련 기회네. 우리 보호자는 어디 있고, 내가 보호자를 위해 무엇을 할 수 있지?)reinforcement(강화)를 제공할 수 있도록 함.mine detection(지뢰 탐지) 훈련과 같음!impulse control(충동 조절)이 아니라 그저 training(훈련)일 뿐임.reinforcement(강화)의 기회가 주어지며, 그것이 신뢰할 수 있다는 사실을 배우는 과정임.Leave It(기다려/그거 놔)이 훈련된 개는 닭 뼈 냄새를 맡으면 주인이 보고 있는지 확인(이를 speed camera working이라 함)함.Drop it(뱉어) protocol(프로토콜)로 교육 단계를 발전시켜야 함.engage(관여/주의 집중)하고 enquire(문의/요청)하면, 사람이 용기로 다가가 음식 조각을 꺼냄.Marker(마커)를 사용하면 개가 무엇을 함으로써 Person Goes Shopping for me(사람이 나를 위해 쇼핑을 간다, 즉 간식을 가져다준다)는 과정을 얻어내는지 명확히 알 수 있음.pony-style로 손을 직접 제시함.bank of repetition)이 필요함.engage함으로써 상당한 정보와 이해, 그리고 음식을 얻게 됨.engagement와 enquiry가 보상으로 이어진다는 점을 확실히 학습함.engagement, 안전한 손.gobby hands) 대처법:fade-in)함.I smell food, where’s my Person (나 음식 냄새 맡았는데, 내 사람 어디 있지?)라는 행동이 확고해지면, 음식이 든 손에서 직접 보상을 전달하는 단계로 넘어감.engage하고 enquire하는 행동: "what can I do for you?" (내가 뭘 하면 될까?)fade-in protocol 적용reinforcement process)은 반려견이 본래 좋아해서 하는 행동들을 포함함으로써 확장됨.misbehaviour of speeding)에 대해 fade-in protocol을 적용하는 방식:engineering gizmo(공학적 장치)를 설계함.conditioned response)이 되어야 하는 주거지 도로(residential street).fuel bonuses(연료 보너스)를 추가로 제공함.box of treats(간식 상자)가 닿지 않는 선반이나 작업대 위에 있는 상황과 동일한 원리임.Error is restricted) 환경임.mileage)가 달성됨.faded away), 도로가 가속을 유도하는(tempt acceleration) 환경으로 개방됨.podcast 청취You did everything right but …. But it still hasn’t worked out, even after 6 years? — (6년이라는 긴 시간 동안 모든 것을 올바르게 수행했음에도 불구하고, 문제가 해결되지 않아 실망감을 느낄 수 있음을 언급함).perfect protocol(완벽한 프로토콜)조차도 스스로 무너질 수 있으며, 우리는 다시 원점으로 돌아가는 악순환을 반복함.Learning is not for spectators(학습은 관람자를 위한 것이 아님): 온라인 강의를 통해 실질적인 성과를 얻는 Active Learner(능동적 학습자)가 되어야 함.Ear Myths(귀에 관한 신화): Border Collie의 귀 모양, 털 색깔이나 질감, 심지어 눈 색깔이 개 성격의 지표라는 것은 잘못된 통념임.A View to a Kill?(사냥을 위한 관점?): Border Collie가 양을 향해 predatory behaviour(포식 행동)를 보인다는 주장에 대해, 과연 그들이 실제로 살해를 목적으로 하는 것인지 의문을 제기함.The Need to Correct an Error(실수를 수정할 필요성):anxiety)과 회피(avoidance)를 초래함.Errors are feedback(실수는 피드백이다).What Words Conceal(단어가 감추는 것): 모든 매체에 나타난 언어들은 개와 우리 사이의 관계에 대한 특정 이미지를 형성함.Do We Want Impulse Control?(우리는 impulse control을 원하는가?):impulse control(충동 조절)을 가르치는 것은 그들의 본능을 대하는 잘못된 사고방식이며, 결코 도움이 되지 않는 방법임.Collies : Masters at Laser Focus(Collie: 레이저 집중력의 대가):Be Collie(Collie답게 행동하라)라고 요구하고 그들의 유전된 본능을 사용하게 할 때, 그 패키지의 일부는 강렬한 predatory focus(포식적 집중)와 관련 없는 자극을 배제하는 것임.Since the Dawn of Dog Training(개 훈련의 새벽부터):the only thing dog trainers can agree on is that their training method in the best one. — (오직 개 훈련사들이 동의할 수 있는 유일한 사실은 '자신의 훈련 방법이 최고'라고 믿는 것뿐이라는 농담).positive라는 용어는 단순히 기술적인 용어가 아니라, 훈련 과정 전반에 걸쳐 신중하고 긍정적인 방식으로 훈련하려는 노력이 수반되어야 함.negative reinforcement(부적 강화)를 피하기 위해, 처음에는 주먹을 쥔 상태로 leave it을 훈련함.click과 treat를 주는 extinction(소거) 과정이 반드시 수반됨.anticipation(예측)이 훈련에서 핵심적인 역할을 함.Are you coasting? by Kay Laurence | Jun 4, 2018 Just because it is better than it was, does that make it the best we can do? This is part of the “good enough” resolution or avoid-any-more-hard-work ethos. Is time so precious that we cannot invest in doing better? Much of the material we integrate into our training, whether daily lifeskills, work or sports activities has reached from the world of science, usually in the form of rat in a box or pigeon on a table. (Search for BF Skinner demonstrating operant conditioning, many videos from the original experiments. Quite eye opening - but much coffee needed.) These restricted environments were a necessary part of the research process of seeking evidence and we are indebted to the work of the scientists and how it has enriched our world of training and learning about dogs. One element integral to the process was to measure the success of the experiment by the rate of response, where 80% was calculated as successful. The rate of response was of a press of a lever or peck to a disc. How the behaviour was carried out was not measured – with joy, distress, pleasure or anxiety. These are factors we have an interest in monitoring today. Here I need to explain the phrase “ was of its time ”, in other words, yes, it was accurate at that time with the knowledge and understanding of that time (1940 – 50s). With today’s knowledge, understanding and experience we can expand on that statement, ignore it or update it. Without doubt we should have moved on and not be still considering 80% a success rate or ignoring the emotional component, otherwise we are just coasting. Are you coasting? If we are not getting better at what we do and just coasting along we are wasting our valuable resources of our time, energy and this dog, here and now. We do not strive to get better at watching TV, but we often strive at making better coffee, eating a better diet. As dog trainers and learners we should be striving to improve our training all the time and for everyone. No coasting. We need to make an effort to look in diligent detail at the inherited presumptions and not just carry on the way it has been done in the past. The phrases guaranteed to excuse coasting: “better than it was” and “everyone does it”. Positive reinforcement training is overloaded with coasters. There seems to be strong motivation to make the leap to positive reinforcement but to then stand still, as if positive reinforcement alone is enough. It has as much inclination to become sloppy as any other protocol and deteriorate beyond what it used to be. An 80% success r
ate on a “return to me” call is not good enough. That means on 1 in 5 occasions it is unsuccessful. It is certainly not a good enough ratio of success for me. I measure success in the way the behaviour was carried out AND the rate of success. 98% is closer to my standard with an expectation of joy and pleasure in the way it is carried out. Here is an example where the protocol or recipe “was of its time” but we should not carry on coasting and avoid the hard work of learning more and learning to be better. “Leave it” protocols These come in many varieties, from the “aah-aah” to prevent food being taken from the hand, the fist closing or withdrawal of the food hand or dog bowl. If you need some enlightenment you can begin here . These protocols all rely on an extinction process. The pup or dog will see an opportunity to take a piece of food, in the hand, at the table or on the floor and “make the error” of trying to get it. When doing so the opportunity is removed, in a variety of ways some more obnoxious than others. The outcome is a dog that is now confused on the presentation of the stimuli: food in the hand, and hands in general. The protocol is justified on the basis that the dog made an error that needs to be extinguished, and that it builds resilience. I see a dog deliberately set-up to make the error. The Person tells the dog “leave it” and reinforcement is delivered for backing off, or averting interest in that available opportunity. Reinforcement is delivered for the absence of a specific behaviour (taking the food). For some dogs that offered a consistent aversion to taking the food, this reinforcement of an alternative behaviour may work. But for dogs that offered several avoidance behaviours all of which receive reinforcement we are just embedding confusion. The dog will begin to hesitate when they scent food is in the environment and likely begin to wonder what they should NOT do, rather than the same stimulus trigger thoughts of what they CAN do. If we believe the marketing and wishful thinking this is supposed to teach impulse control, but as much as the threat of speed cameras reduces speeding: when they think they can be caught. The addition of the cue “ leave it” , is justified so that “in real life” should your dog approach a chicken bone on the ground you can shout “leave it” and they will halt their progress. That is neither impulse control nor training by positive reinforcement. It also requires The Person to be vigilant at all times so that they can act as a speed camera. Perhaps we all know the outcome of “no speed cameras on this
road” …….. speeding? We may just as well teach the dog “no”? The main question I ask of this industry faithful: why is it necessary to let the dog make the error to be able to remove it? How is that in the sphere of positive reinforcement? (For more on Errorless learning an article by Susan Friedman) Let’s focus ourselves on teaching the dog what we want them to do, and find lots and lots of different ways to reward them for doing that. I want my dogs, in particular young learners laying down their foundation skills, to view their environment as opportunities to earn. Earn food, earn affection, earn interaction with enjoyment at the root. When they scent food in the air, I would like them to think, “oh cool, a training opportunity, where’s My Person and what can I do for them?” If I considered a future of walking amongst chicken bones, then I would teach the dog a specific return to me behaviour that I would recognise so that I can supply a reinforcement, much like mine detection! This is Just Training, not impulse control, just learning that when that stimulus is present then this opportunity of reinforcement is available, and it is reliable. The Leave It trained dog is likely to smell the chicken bone, check if the owner is looking (speed camera working) and make a rush for the bone before the owner is awake. Then we have to progress to the Drop it protocol. Smell chicken go fetch Person We want to focus our effort and resources on teaching the dog what to do when they smell chicken. Beginning with the scent of the food, in a container out of reach of the dog, when the dog engages and enquires to you, you can step to the container and collect a piece of food. This should be delivered in a smart, no hesitation fashion, to where the dog is at that time. For folk unsure of the hand to mouth delivery it is good to practice this in advance of delivering a piece of food. A marker would help clarify to the dog what earns the “Person Goes Shopping for me” process, but equally of value we need to ensure we do not actually teach the dog to make a lunge toward the hand as it approaches to feed. We need a clean, prompt arrival of the food, in a “pony-style” hand direct for the dog to take the treat without the need to move. If we look carefully at the image where she is taking food from my hand, note that there is no loss of balance, she does not have to reach forward to get the treat, or move backwards. It is exactly where she expects it to be, and she can eat directly off the palm with ease, no stress or extra effort. This process needs a bank of repetition upw
ards of 20. The dog will get a substantial amount of information, understanding and food for holding position (it can sit, stand or diddle on the spot) and engaging with Person. This is paired with the continual scent of food. The dog will learn that engagement and enquiry, the silent type not the vocal type, pays off under these conditions. Reliably. The dog will learn to trust hands that deliver food, WILL deliver food and not pull back at the last minute. This is positive all the way: the experience the dog will enjoy, the engagement as the foundation for training and interaction, safe hands, and perhaps gobby hands, but they can be washed. But if the gob-on-hand is an issue, have an empty food bowl adjacent to the dog and drop the treat to the bowl or put the food in a cup on a stick and put the food to the floor in front of the dog, or lion. Once this process is established, upward of 20, then we begin to fade-in food in the hand. Since we are the lucky owners of 2 hands, I would suggest the non-active hand holds a couple of treats in the early introduction, not the hand that delivers. When we see solid, “I smell food, where’s my Person” behaviour we can progress to delivering from the hand containing food. My recommendation is to keep it variable. Sometimes from the food in-hand supply, sometimes a step to the food container, sometimes a journey to the fridge. But it is a lifelong, reliable rewarding process. In the video you can see I wait for Merrick to see a box of chicken treats and show me her foundation behaviour. A behaviour of engage and enquire: " what can I do for you? " The reinforcement process is then extended by including behaviours she likes to do. To apply the fade-in protocol for the misbehaviour of speeding, we would design an engineering gizsmo that prevented an excess speed along a specific track of road, perhaps a road-type where limited speed should become a conditioned response – a residential street. As the driver progressed, fuel bonuses would be added, rewards for maintaining the restriction, even though making the error was restricted. This is the same as a box of treats, out of range on a unit or work top. Error is restricted. Much mileage is achieved in these types of streets. Very slowly the residential area is faded away and the road opens up to “tempt” acceleration. As the driver maintains the limit, more bonuses are added, and these increase depending on how difficult it becomes to maintain. Additional bonuses or rewards, can be offered, time to enjoy the views, a stop for a coffee, good conversation with a passenge
r, podcast from the radio. Including the satisfaction from adhering to the rules, removing potential dangers and arriving safely. If we focus our training around what we don't want the dog will focus on what to avoid. Explore COURSES All courses Key Reading You did everything right but …. But it still hasn’t worked out, even after 6 years? Yeah, it can be disappointing, but at times even the “perfect” protocol, applied with accuracy can undo itself and we go around in the circle again. Read More Learning is not for spectators Are you an Active Learner? Or: Are you getting your money’s worth for online courses? It would not matter what subject we are talking about:... Read More Ear Myths There is a myth surrounding Border Collies that ear shape, coat colour or texture, and even eye colour are indicators of that dog’s personality,... Read More A View to a Kill? We often hear the claim that the Border Collie is exhibiting predatory behaviour on sheep. But are they really seeking to kill? Read More The Need to Correct an Error When learning is littered with costly mistakes we will carry anxiety and avoidance. Errors are feedback. There should be no fear of error just opportunities to learn. Read More What Words Conceal The language across all kinds of media paints a picture of dogs and our relationships with them. Read More Do We Want Impulse Control? Teaching your Collie “impulse control” is the wrong way of thinking about their urges, and certainly an unhelpful way of dealing with them. Read More Collies : Masters at Laser Focus When we ask the dog to Be Collie and use all their inherited instincts, part of that package is the exclusion of stimulus irrelevant to that intense predatory focus. Read More Since the Dawn of Dog Training The old joke reminds us that the only thing dog trainers can agree on is that their training method in the best one. It becomes increasingly difficult to know which method is “right” and whether it will suit the dog, the situation and trainer’s skills. Read More Back to Basics? The word “basic” is often derided as synonymous with “shallow,” but in its origins it is the very opposite: foundational, profound, supportive. Read More Top Training Living well through movement “The purpose of learning is to get more or better rewards” W. Shultz Can we assume that the more we learn the more rewards we can enjoy? Often these... Read More What We Get Right About Dogs We can learn from remarkable people who have worked with remarkable dogs: training and learning are not the same thing at all. Read More Herding Games For All Dogs? The wrong
herding game is like trying to make a tennis player succeed at football Read More Teaching People: more than rewards and reinforcers Familiarisation with the behaviourists’ models of reinforcement, punishment, shaping, extinction, can prevent us from looking outside the windows for either dogs or people … Read More Cognitive Approach for the Dogs Training is something done TO the dog. Learning that is something done FOR the dogs. Read More Location is Their Cue We begin teaching the dog to go to a target, such as a mat or platform and in this process our focus is on the outcome – the dog can place feet on the object or settle down. But at the same time this learning is happening the dog is also noting the location: where this is happening in this room, in the house, relative to the food-machine (you). Read More Cue Seeking is Connection Connection is very individual and to be authentic we have to observe, slow down, understand our dogs and meet them where they are. Read More Back to Basics? The word “basic” is often derided as synonymous with “shallow,” but in its origins it is the very opposite: foundational, profound, supportive. Read More Do you see what I see Doing better is the reward from doing the work. This work needs to be the right work at the right time with the right intent done in the right way. Read More What’s Cooking? A Warning About Recipes Recipes for “training” dogs are so prevalent in how we live with and talk about them that their existence often goes unquestioned. Read More 6 Comments Christina on 19th June 2018 at 6:19 am I love this approach to “leave it”, I haven’t been happy with my own approach to teaching this to my clients. I have paired a cue with food but the bridge for understanding has been lacking. The result of this is that you have to be on alert on your walks and to pick up the changes in your dogs body languages very early. I am now in the process of thinking how I can teach my dog to mark on chicken bones in the nature very similar to nose work I am sure we both would enjoy this a lot and a new step for me in becoming a better trainer. Reply Kay Laurence on 19th June 2018 at 8:40 am Sounds an excellent idea for a nosework project! I purchased a handful of small cages that hold bird food, I think fat balls etc, and placed the “I’d rather you didn’t eat this” inside, so that it was not consumable and the dog needed to alert to me (with a return and indicate). On some occasions we would Go To the source and I would use my special tools (thumbs) to open the cage and deliver the goodies, other times we would go to a com
pletely different source for reward. I do think running with the dog to a source is an intricate part of the pleasure for the dog, not just return to me for food from my pocket. A great game, we call “chicken in a basket”, and many variations can really help the dog with a fun and interactive activity. Reply Sanna on 8th August 2018 at 9:07 pm Awesome! It’s really nice to notice how positive is not simply a technical term but you really make an effort to carefully train in a positive way. Thank you! I have also been thinking about the leave it training a lot. I train it with the hand in a fist at first to avoid negative reinforcment of the closing hand. However there is still always the extinction part where the dog tries to get the treats from the closed hand and only gets the click and treat when it stops. I started to doubt this system when i realised that my newest addition to my furry family was not really “fighting for the reward” because she had learned that “giving up” is the way to get the treat. I think I will change the way I teach clients now as well so that there are no “hands involved” in anything but the reward. The only thing I was wondering is how would you react if instead of orienting towards you the dog would’ve gone and done its best to get the stuff in the box? Or is the box truly out of reach in the beginning? For instance too high for the dog to reach it. Thank you for this… mind blowing!! :D!! Reply Kay Laurence on 9th August 2018 at 10:19 am Thanks Sanna. I think you make an important point about “giving up” becoming part of their perception of training …. that would make an excellent blog! (Hint hint?) If Merrick had helped herself to the chicken …. I would have sighed … and then and cooked some more, but started the next session differently. She has be familiar with “available” food from a puppy. Although I could put the food on the floor in the box for the collies, that would be a step too far for her at that age. She is about 14 months here. There comes a point when free food is just free food, I often have scatter parties in the garden, especially when there are deliveries at the gate. Training with me is more than a piece of food – it is the signficance of me collecting the food, choosing what is best for her and then delivering it with sincerity. I think anticipation plays an important role. We are building the resources for Good Food Delivery if you would like to browse …. https://www.learningaboutdogs.com/training-with-food/ Reply Al on 16th June 2022 at 9:01 pm I would love to know how to apply this brilliant concept t
o my training challenge. We are 75% through teaching my GSD to be able to encounter passing dogs when out on walks and not react to them, which she used to do even at considerable distance. We can now pass on the pavement with encouragement, reinforcement and, wait for it, gentle and quiet use (almost a whisper) of “leave it” and a loose (or pulsing) lead. I can see that I need to teach her to “do” something rather than “not do” something. I don’t feel it is right or fair to adopt the “focus on me” where it causes her to take her eye off the dog, because that causes her anxiety. I am trying to continue building her confidence to the point where she will no longer need my verbal “guidance” but am at a hiatus and unsure how to take things forward. Reply Kay Laurence on 17th June 2022 at 9:58 am The challenge is often trying to find an activity appropriate when on the street, that will not attract other dogs, your dog is comfortable with and can be initiated by your dog wen they see a stimulus they would rather avoid. I often have several pockets, or suitable hiding places, particularly in winter clothing, and good bit of drama self searching about these pockets for a toy or treat will often engage the dog to help me. I have been known to poke food down the tops of my socks as part of this “help the person” food search! Whatever the activity it represents an opportunity for rewards ….. Reply Trackbacks/Pingbacks Stop Your Dog Mugging for Food: Develop your own skills – delight in dogs - […] Kay Laurence’s thought provoking article Just Cause it is Better than it Was […] My dog is chewing my hand off – #BEINGWITHDOGS AND SUCH - […] are more elegant ways to achieve that goal. Read this article by Kay Laurence over and over again; there’s… Submit a Comment Cancel reply Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked * Comment * Name * Email * Website Submit Comment Δ