에피소드 18: Jany Böhm

that time i am nominated for competition okay and in czech republic for example we have the system that you know all the competition all schedule for whole year right all think you know you know exactly which part you're gonna do you can prepare yourself but but for me is optimal and that's the best way right yes on fmbb on fci doesn't matter everywhere simply it's like uh how to say it nicely and gently i will say like myself it's not dramatic around it's a big like you know big comedy around and i don't know i have no reason i don't see one reason why why my opinion it should be like on beginning coming a date the guys will choose the helpers like at least half year before you can gonna prepare you know right you get ready it's like you you know just like you would prepare for any other sport yes like you need that time to mentally and physically i was playing like some you know eight years or almost 10 years ice hockey and it's like i was on the you know in ofensiv on like a center and then i am coming to another competition and they just say hey you are the goal man okay or you go just to defensive just today and you don't know right so it's your position you need to know so this is one thing it should be changed a little bit and just make it easier and also people can know i don't think it's it's problem yeah i don't think it's difficult to do that i they probably not not thinking about it but as far as the helpers and getting ready i think it's a good thing to do so in one hand is of course i'm so honored to be there i really love that and it's great because it's not in czech republic it's in different country they they asked me to come yes it's my honor of course but you know uh in in those countries like romania doesn't matter it will be romania it will be italy that guys they give everything for organization they invited you so number one for me is just not thinking about they will not draft me they will not get me so you know so i'm just 100% sure they will take me okay i'm just positive mind thinking like this i never think like they will not take me if that happened okay i will have great time with the people around and i will just warm the bench and yeah i don't i don't see that either i don't see that either so when you did your first one was that the giant schnauzer's your first big one yes yes that was 2012 it was in october i had a birthday that day oh wow it was amazing whole stadion okay czech republic small stadium not like here just make you know big applause to me they gave me this kind of cake and

you know it's so funny because there was like woman's boobs you know it was so so nice i remember but the second nice thing was there like actually a little bit crazy thing it was snowing so when i did the technique part i was so i did the first half yes i was first half right first half how you say yeah it was snow basically it was four days i remember and two or three of those days was just snow on the on the field that was and schnauzers are big dogs and they weigh the same way they're different it's a different it's a different animal what was your impression at the time do you remember yeah i think they what what do you think about them i think that's about 10 years ago are they still good enough i think they are i think honestly i think they are really better and better yes in my opinion one of these uh breeds like almost the highest really they're so good they have in my opinion so similar mentality like in mali they are very temperament very good body compact you know i like them yes they are definitely if you if you think about that's my opinion of uh the next breed after shepherd and malino yeah at the moment probably they are the ones mostly mostly about how many you know yeah yeah for sure but i i was there with joseph kubets it's the guy he was now also with me on fci right like a sparring partner he was in technique part and i do remember a great time of that it was best organization and you know this kind of guy who is his name doesn't matter but he that guy who organized that he is one of best organizers in czech republic in my opinion see and already in that time he was great so that was all how it should be unfortunately unfortunately that was snow but they did it they they managed that so were you when you started helper work did you were you more interested in the training part or the competition part yeah cool cool question very good question i i think i never got this question because i i immediately i got the point like you know i'm teaching now one guy he's 21 and he's already international helper as i did in 20 he was second guy in czech republic who got in the same age i'm just shortly talking about him because he exactly came to me that he wants to be international helper all right but when i was small guy i was saying i want to be coach i want to be trained okay and that's the difference he he thought okay i'll be international helper i'll be the superstar but in my opinion 99 in my head happen all the time is like coach trainer so it means training yes that competition

is just bonus right right some trainers like like talking about myself even when i'm a training helper it's a hard one to switch and not help the dog when you know that you can yeah but stay on the program and do your competition helper work do you sometimes find yourself like just without even thinking that maybe you help sometimes that you shouldn't or you really can separate the two yeah from time to time i think it's it's uh seems like first competition i take it very seriously you know that is like so you just kind of change your mind and it's like different switch i don't know you there you know right we have training we have great time i don't know you now right it's many times happen for example i've been in that first half in the blind and after recall you you can watch everywhere but you have to be focused what the guy say react okay and it's kind of people don't see but it's kind of moment like imagine you are in oh yes you recall your dog i'm staying there and you want to i always want to so laugh inside yes but from outside i'm like a stone yes no that is like a poker face but inside i'm like please say help her out help her get out please let's go let's get out of this and very often the handlers just laugh to you they just smile on you right of course they do yes you know it's us it and how you can be then serious it's like i want to come and say hey let's give him bite right it was nice barking yeah or side transports the in these cases i would say there i need to be like a super focus but otherwise the 90 of the work like where i met the dog i don't know you i yeah it's not difficult ultimately it is the best combination to to be able to to do both i think when you when you are on the competition field as a competition helper yeah you can prepare a dog for that yeah but then there is the other side if you are only competition helper but you don't really have success as a training helper sometimes it's not easy to to prepare a dog you can be very good in the competition but to prepare the dog for competition i'm just thinking helper work you know yeah that's that's you you you know how is it to prepare the dog it's like one side because exactly i will again say this guy i call him sadly right we in this conversation we'll call him sadly that's my spark my friend my young young young young uh young sparring partner and brother from czech republic sadly he is all you know because you do that very long time you just forget the things like how young people think right and he is exactly saying i met the female she's three years old you

know this woman trained with you in the past one year and i'm saying until one year you almost done the dog you're given the most important foundation and basics right so he just met her and she talked to him like who is your teacher who is your coach oh that's jani and then it comes like this feedback from her to him yeah today you know i'm competing but somebody need needed to teach her somebody needs to teach the dogs so in my opinion in the world like around the world is a lot of trainers or trainers helpers especially which one do these pictures like program they can do escape some kind of pressure doesn't matter which style but they don't know how to prepare the dog okay it's just in row it's just in row it go around around yeah there is there is no training somebody need to teach them i always say somebody to teach them and i prefer that so when we are talking about teaching helpers what is the how is it in czech republic what do you do you guys have a like the malino club or the german shepherd probably different but do you have any program or everything goes um private like i really wish that you know everywhere this kind of program for the helpers we don't we don't you don't there is at least i don't know about that and but the thing why like czech republic in my opinion has like a lot of helpers a lot of trainers is that ours this this you know sport igp is very big there and very traditional yes and for some reason you continue to somehow attract the younger people which is a problem in almost every other country let's open that time then this kind of thing what you say now let's think about that i would just you know finish this you know i think it's traditional so guys see young guys see older ones you know sometimes it's family sometimes it's just like uh accidentally you you meet somebody and you like it you know how it goes with this dog world but there is not really a structured program no no nothing nothing you i don't really know there is there was like a school today it's perfect that you have a lot of social media you have youtube you know everything you can see you can check a lot of you know on videos i do remember like that 20 years ago i you know it was different you for sure know yes it was not that easy today is much easier to mimic anyone or just watch him and he you know yeah you you really at that that time you really needed uh to find even to find you need to learn from even that was yes even that was challenging yeah yeah i i do remember like yesterday i was going to the bus i was just 14 15

when i started and i just drive you know the 60 70 kilometers to another city and they're watching this superstar trainers and everything i i learned just like from watch and i come back i try i see and try to get the point why and what you know that was basically how i know with um like in the states we do have at least the like the german shepherd clubs they have a a program for helpers the malina club tried at one point it didn't take off it didn't work and i i don't know my our focus is probably a little bit more on the trial helper than the training helpers like to try to select our own competition helpers um but again we haven't we are just talking about it at the moment there is like there is always the good and the bad in those you know like i always look at something when it becomes so structured and we have one person or two people teaching everybody how to do correct helper work and then you look at this 20 kids you know young guys different size different shape different everything but they all trying to look like the same person yeah and and then it misses the the personality like your flavor of trying to you know do something put something give something from you in the work instead of always thinking of the okay five steps tickets three here now we don't even have tickets but you know this very very structured thing yeah and i i sometimes um i wish that when when there is a program they allow and encourage the helpers to to have their own personality in the work how how do you feel yeah the courage is number one right that that's that's the basic i mean especially in catching dogs and long attack that's courage is yeah that's you you don't have to catch dogs when you have no courage of that but i know what you mean i got the point at the point i think you focus for trials helpers i will be focused for training training helpers doesn't matter it can be both right yes it can be both but this this is like big tema for me because let's open it like you see guys today you know i was here one month and i have seen baseball i have seen ice hockey play live i have seen super bowl in this american football i know we've got a lot of it was crazy and i just love it you know that 99 here is different than in my country i knew and i expect that already but this kind of game listen it's not only about like how they play and how it looks like a picture of the game it's about like how they promote it's the build up it's the everything is just a super huge you know there is stars everybody like it it's why this is not in dog sport why it is

i'll tell you why because there is not the right promotion about it there is no right promotion look at me i'm just you know i was i'm from village i'm i'm from poor family no we have never like be super rich or something and just because of hard work training and you know the will and spirit i became you know they invited me to usa yes and i'm in florida yes with diamond balabanov today and i'm just 33 what's gonna happen okay nobody knows nobody knows the story how was it uh but that this guy lebron james scores like 80 and 800 and more points everybody knows you know what i mean yeah it needs to be there needs to be kind of news kind of promotion about like what is happening right now i have a bubble and some statistics fmbs yes some call of fame numbers hall fame all this thing look at ufc just bring it from ufc to us right come on right have some commentators you know i will tell you one really bad thing and i'm not i feel good to say because just to you know motivate people i mean organizers especially i have all time respect to everyone who do something okay but i have to say i am very much like you know i'm super patriot i will never ever be team leader for any other country even i train them okay i will be always loyal to czech republic it's my home country and i will be and it's like fci and czech republic guys my colleagues my my sparring partners all the herbers they you know people who organize that the commentators and all make a schedule what they should talk about on beginning on the ceremony you know what i mean what i'm talking and they they introduce you this major of the city and what fucking yes a lot of random people that they don't even know the point nobody care of that right right it's good to say the names but thank you it's okay the people who have to talk are on the field and they didn't even introduce our names man i i don't take it personally it's just shame it's so yeah it's uh it's um okay it's your country you work for that i mean it's honor we can use that we can use that to inspire and and that that can make the sport for sure much more but if you don't even do that well man you know how the i i have a dream in my head it's just happening and i i swear the guy will do my best to bring it to reality like ufc guys entering the how you call the octagon yeah yeah yeah it's like walking okay the walking inside man why don't do this in igp it can be very easy it can be very easily done okay the first part have that guy and well welcome him guys mega applause for that guy you know that's it's so it needs to be show simply make

so you know and it allows when you present yeah a competitor and you give just a little bit of interesting information it makes it more interesting to to watch and exactly this can happen i don't think it's hard you know how it can happen they can have a like let's say now it's too late for romania or probably but anytime there is a world championship they can say okay well the the five or six people from the country they submit some some little resume from themselves yeah to the team captain the team captain presents it yeah and then there is really okay well there is this person coming in it it's like yeah it's my first world championship that's just as big as exactly being your 20th world championship you know it makes it so more i love it personal and interesting and everybody is in it that way but isn't it in your eyes that think why is it exactly not like you know you need to motivate the people probably nobody thinks you know and it's like let's give them motivation you know yanni was now in usa you know it's of course it's a business it's it is my job i i do that it's for living right and you know like that guys in the money that guys don't need the money why and what it should be on it should be on yes people just hide everything don't talk about it i'm not i feel not bad to say that yeah and the bonus is where it is happening even so motivate that young 14 15 young guy hey do you want to be helper like him come on how he can know it right how he how there is many guys who can be like this and about my story i i was playing ice hockey right and i i i thought like okay ice hockey will be my future but well uh it cost a lot of money and i stayed just with my mom and you know that was difficult for her okay to pay all the trainings i had the chance to go like you know kind of different countries and make some kind of how do you say connections yes yes and future but it cost a lot of money that time was like a destiny i'm saying it was just a destiny we were rerunning with the team jogging some condition cardio and i've seen training on the foolish where i bought and where i live in that time and next sunday i was not in the training jogging i was on the club and that's happened what started for i mean it has to be the dog training that's normally how it starts right so you you first got into the dog training and then the helper work was man next or how did it go it was so cool i've been in that time really like at 13 okay wow very green 30 wow i have seen two guys did the helper work and there was like a circle and around

was like 10 or 12 dogs and i just feel so adrenaline see that dogs bark and they just but they just want to right no one of the friends of that boys was looking that wow what you know and next sunday i'm saying i was coming there watching beside of the fans and they you know these guys coming to me and what do you want and i say i want to be that guy i say what do you mean i say i how you call him when i say that's a figurant yeah yeah that's our figure and i say okay i want to be that guy i want to be figuring really and they were just laughing it was in that time so much police guys and they don't give a i eat like 50 kilos and you know very small but i'm sure they appreciate it but you know i've been there man like four five times regularly every sundays you know and then of course training from ice hockey call home and like hey what's going on what's going on he just keep it or what yeah well three years i did together those sports then i decided also money after everything but i feel i feel they're much better you know i think i i i was there like that okay anyway four or five times then they let me enter gave me you know some kind of jacket which one is like uh how you say like uh yeah you don't feel the pain when the dog is coming yeah yeah you have a lot of yes big one and yeah that's it and first contact was just dog with the muscle police dog and they just hide me somewhere in the room and then let me think you know i was coming home and it's like it was so funny right i like it and oh i am i can tell you that maybe after half year or something they started to show me and teach me okay this is sleeve right and i do remember one sentence from the guy he said about the turning you know catching because it was not so modern still in that uh-huh and i remember i was always like boom boom like good morning good morning just take it and then he came to me and say i like you are not afraid but listen do you like if you 20 times go to the wall and you just smash your head there no so turn that female please turn that female please and i say how just when she come turn her i was 15 14 i don't even know now but that was the thing it stays in my head yeah man save that okay and yeah that was my beginning that's probably a very smart approach of teaching to to just tell you this instead of starting to tell you well move your left foot here and do the right hand and then that makes your brain yeah think too much and then your body cannot do nothing right common sense exactly but it was so good and

i i think it's you know man in my head now it's happening million things that is like monkeys and i want to tell you so much but how we have one one of the things one but i have to put it down because i don't remember everything then i just forget but like about this yeah two years i was just going without dog and then i i asked you know for the german shepherd without pedigree and it starts but i was there two years just without dog i was exactly that you know i i feel i'm going to be that guy and this is funny story let me finish that ice hockey seven years old competition my mom sit there that's the truly story i always you know love when my mom described that she's much better talker about this and she's saying like this okay i don't see no problem it was nice she's always saying i didn't see any problem in the end the coach was going to her like hey mom okay that your guy you know your boy you know you need to explain him that we are team he cannot play by himself and she what do you mean he he play good or yes but he's taking the book of the all of them and she but they are like the competitors so he has to do that all right and she and he said yes but he's taking the book from the open players from everybody he cannot do that and she says all right i understand she was going home and they're trying to explain me this story i was like well who said that uh-huh and she like oh that's the that's this your trainer you said that you and i said okay why i have to like respect him because he's the main thing man he's just the boss right he is your mentor leader everything i say okay then i want to be the trainer i want to be the coach and that's it that that's it later i get impressed to the dog sport i mean like a handler later first i mean first second year it was just like helper work training i see like they're talking and you know and and then there's adrenaline and that was my passion but later i figure out i like also the dog and today it's like 50 50. so so okay then you started first with the helper work yeah see there's so many so many paths so many ways to get in yeah yeah and that was so spontaneous but today let's you know i really wish and i mean i'm 33 but i i don't know really how and what's gonna happen but i i swear to god i will do my best for promotion that like not myself i i don't have nothing to prove i mean i will always prove myself i will never stop but i want to promote like this sport my like personal person where where i am you know i mean what i what i concrete what i have done right i have done and i want to give the motivation to young

guys they can do it too they can crazy when you say young guys and you just turn 33 yeah but but i know what you're saying like you you already have done so much as a helper and so much as a handler as a trainer like you have i i i mean you gotta tell me i don't want to kind of butcher all the the you you were second at the fci you've won at least twice the czech championship you've been quite a few times second place yeah and in all three phases really really cool training yeah it's not like uh can you say it again i know right it sounds so good when he's saying that it's it's that you know i mean you go to working dog and you see who who is who it's it's uh um yeah honestly it sounds very nice and very cool but i take it all still very humble you know in in the end i it's just two days ago we played the game that's what it is i mean i always saw interesting to the journey right the preparation and in the end maybe it sounds bad but it's just a peak of the cake that i you win or something okay and then it's like okay that's all ciao let's go another session right that's the that's the the nature of the beast yeah it's so fantastic but i don't live from this it's not like my power that's not the power it's not the reason really there is so many more things which one you have to watch in competition and it's for example friendship okay right we are from all the world and we meet tell me one sport okay when this happening people are living we play ice hockey they're living in spitzburg from czech republic they live there all the time and they copy integer have you think about it anytime it's just what in my opinion once okay when it's world championship and you're like individualist it's happening golf or somewhere but this is this is like i think our sport is a lot of like a family family we are very close you know it should be i don't think i i don't know if we are that close all the time of course not everybody but but but it's the if if if if we are put in the same place and we train a little bit i think we we all can find some interesting common ground yeah um but then there is the times where it's like okay no you you like you and i see things very different and we just cannot i mean i respect what you do but we are so different that we cannot and it's still interesting the sport is amazing like i do you know just like this month here you know watching you train watching him train watching me train you are definitely right there is not sharing everybody you know of course but i mean this is

everywhere but but it's uh in the big picture we are all for the same goal yeah right yeah it should be like that's what it is it should be like that's what we're trying but the important is like what's the goal okay it's like going to there just to win the world championship and bring the title of course everybody wish that i'm that is the part of the game you have to but in my opinion i'm saying on myself i go there enjoy the time it's a it's a it's a jackpot i i be there okay yeah it's already it's already yeah a big deal i would say my my point and goal is to win czech championship i want to be check champ and go to or at least in this top five you know how it goes selection but then in world championship it's all about lucky many many factors around and only the fact for me is i became here i meet ivan i mean people from there people from there i can watch my you know students people which i prepare enjoy time with them and then by the way compete and put there off of course all the series you know i i mean don't get me bad but that i competing it's just uh like a holiday it's for me like fine super time it's not about like now i need to go and win and if that because if this if this happens happening in your mind and then it's not happening on the field you get upset you destroy a whole thing so do you feel that something changes the more you compete or you're still feeling similar about this but what do you mean like what like how you you said like you you you go into the competition yeah and you feel already that you are you're happy that you accomplish just the fact that you're there already it's a good thing all right but like with every time you do more i got you yeah does it play games with your mind or or you still can that's a super question so you have a lot of super questions i like it i actually really like it because it's so spontaneous i i get not prepared for that and i have to say that for me you know i'm the person kind of person which one always need to be looking forward for something so well today and tomorrow i'm flying home and i'm looking forward that next week i go somewhere okay yeah example yeah so in competition i'm coming there and when i just enter and i see that that that knowing faces which one i know i'm happy i'm just at home it's home mine it's home yes i'm coming back and actually i'm always so nervous like exciting to meet everybody you know so so you're more more positive than than pressure yeah in the competition man sorry that's perfect that's no that's perfect i'm just exciting i'm excited i remember my first world

championship in with my old dog forny 2016 france and i was before obedience i have like headset and i have their music but do you think that is like anya singing no man that is like party there is rock and roll and i'm just like boxer i'm ready go let me enter please let me get in and it's just a whole my life that's funny that was france that's that's i don't know what year was it because i'm so bad with 60 years 60 but this was the time when i i kind of you know like we all follow each other we all pay attention it's it that's this is the cool part that we as competitors we pay attention and we know and the people that come to watch us they don't know that and that's back to that conversation that they should know because it's so much more interesting nobody around no yes so i will tell you a funny one now the first time i make you like in person like close you know i already knew because i follow i mean it's i i like to follow and to know that's great we were parked at one point like maybe three or four cars apart and we were both getting ready i don't think we were in the same place but we were both getting ready and you know i'm doing my thing you're doing your thing and just kind of went like this didn't say anything but it was this cool like acknowledgement you know yeah i think it was that it was that france it was france no i know it was from 16 yeah we were like really like like a track maybe tracking no it was the it was at the stadium okay okay beside of that yeah i think you had some man and i'm not good with like you know me i don't remember yet but i think you had some kind of red car or something was it or no a black black yeah well i don't know the but i know where it was you know somebody yeah it doesn't matter all right but that's the that's the this is where it can be so interesting for for the people that are entering the sport to know more what did you think in that moment oh i i was like okay what i think i was just okay there is jani and i followed you know here and there and i'm like yeah this is a it's six years this is most definitely a competition and and it's the best thing like there we go this is so cool i cannot even believe because i was at you know i was first time somewhere look at that legend he's saying i was recognize you thank you for that man it's i really oh that's a little shock but i do remember that too of course you know i don't remember cars anything i was just saying okay that's that man who dressed this i don't know how we call it in english yeah the guy who is taking the towel on the head the bandana bandana and that's

the ivan balabanov of course i knew and yeah i was yeah and this is the thing what we talk about i am so happy be beside of somebody like you on the field even we don't go together but we competing we are on the one row we are just on one business one game yes there yes i doesn't matter you that that age i am this age and we can meet this is a celebration this is festival okay so that's what i'm talking about it's a good way to look at it very good way to look at it you know what i was thinking of the do you get nervous like which one or do you really feel the same way when you go and do a big championship as a helper or you enter a big championship as the trainer kind of i i think like at all who is saying he's not nervous he's lying right everybody are nervous but at least what i think about me uh i have kind of like exciting nervous i don't know how to describe it in english you know i'm i'm more like looking forward i mean i'm exciting let me go there and my nickname is waiting so if i need to wait so long i get more and more and more it's upgrade so the shorter waiting the better is than the result okay but of course there is kind of nervosity and you but same moment i would say again the same time i will tema will open if you enter the field many times before the more times you enter so kind of promotion like introduce you you know let me introduce this guy he's in long attack let me tell you something you feel much better but if you all the time outside even the selection you do outside and then you're coming there it's so much pressure and the more serious you take it the more pressure is coming so it i would i would say you don't have to take it you know again don't get me bad but you don't have to take it that seriously but you have to take it seriously right if you if you take it too much then you're not still then you are then you're yeah yeah then then you do then you're not you're performing the way you should just you just that you know then it's like whole thing away and all what you have been working one year or many years before is just out so in my opinion nothing has to be extreme but of course i am nervous and exciting in the same moment that's it looking at from a side i would i would guess that being the helper in a competition makes it a little bit more puts a little more pressure because when you compete it's you and your dog and you need to up you yeah it's you and your dog still yeah but when you're the helper the figurant you're responsible for somebody

else's work that they have put for so long and you have to do now your part yeah for them right yeah that's a responsibility man that's the biggest responsibility in this case i will very calmly say that there i take it really serious because man i have been competing i'll say just example right 2017 rheinland germany with me my sparring for obedience was a guy from england great britain actually and with rottweiler and just you know to meet him before i was going to him and say hello we go together i like it i do it every time okay people think like what he told you you know does it some tricky or no i'm just hey nice to meet you i'm jani i go together and in the end after a little conversation i was asking him do you want to be on my left side when we go to the judge or right side yes i can help you very cool and he man you choose please i my my my my goal is to not fucked up your obedience i'm already happy that i became i have a chance i mean i have a chance to be on this world championship cool this is saying the guy with five years old rottweiler listen listen then you train then you go to competition it takes many years and you are the helper do you fucking think that i will go i will smash that guy like a helper right right and this is this is another big time again but you have to think like it's it's you know my dog now it's it's he's like my kid he's like my soul mate i don't take him like a thing and if i send him in long attack and then it's coming somebody who will want to prove himself and show that he is the biggest guy in the world i will kill him okay that's not not game and that's not fun so you need to take it like you prepare your dog whole life it's your it's your friend and they are entering the field just because of the honor so in the end i'm taking this really seriously really seriously all four dogs and therefore dogs and competitors who else around doesn't matter for me when you do the back half how do you watch the first part what what kind of mental what what are what's going in your head because that's important yeah well of course i'm concentrate for that dog because i mean in the barking in the in the barking the blind you meet the dog you recognize the dog you see how is it okay and of course in guarding and all these things around but i'm i'm usually very concentrate how the dog is target in the escape the escape how he is how his will to make that grip is going okay you know you got me what i'm saying yes yes yes so that i i see the stabs how he count because in escape you can see a lot you can see how he technically go to

the angle you can read the legs so i'm mainly really looking escape tender re-attack also important but not that much and pressure it's basically like i can only see if the dog has problem or something yeah yeah yeah but the main thing is like how the dog is walking basically all before grip i am watching okay how the dog is like a personality and of course after grip that he's chewing okay i know now he's chewing i have to be you know that but i'm i'm very much concentrating for first half i am checking almost everything you know you see back transport react of course the attack how is fast if the dog is that fast or just a medium or like slowly if he's targeting or thinking of course i'm also in the same moment studying like that guy who is in that first part because we are like at least this is very traditionally in check we communicate together okay so well when he go out from the first part and i go there i want to be concentrate so he maybe sometimes come and tell me something important but 90 we don't talk each other and after we go to the changing room and there we have like a time and we ask each other how do you see that okay so i'm also looking on him and he's looking on me yes because nobody around have that game picture which one is become the total picture of that situation yeah yeah so i'm i'm very much looking the first one very much is it easier to catch a dog that you don't know or a dog that you well if yeah let's say let's say a dog that you've trained quite a bit versus a dog that you don't know and you see him in the first half and you catch or you're catching a dog that you know man which one do you think i don't know do you try to even think about that i don't know how is it as a general for guys but for me right it's better to catch dogs i have even ever seen which i don't know because of course about catching number one you want to be good catcher is don't think don't predict don't think about that before man it's so hard if you train three four years the dog man you know him like your dog yes it's so hard in that moment be clear white and just line oh sorry one line yes it's so hard so i'm saying it's better like that is coming the guy they even can talk about him hi man that guy that dog will smash you right on the ground i bet 20 dollars you know that's even better i don't care it's nice to meet you first first time but when you train the dog and especially when it's your dog even you can and you know another thing what did you say of course you are like years helper and the

dog compete like four years so you can meet the same dog yes yes that's even worse yes you meet the same dog like after i don't know three months and before somebody catch him and you see just boom and then you are like all right um yeah i would say one little funny story or how you maybe it's interesting or not usc but 2012 there was a dog junkers there for bohemia from the guy iri cheika and uh he was a helper too no or no yeah he is he is still he was never international helper but he is still active helper yeah of course he's from this uh how do you say hst company the son of the offener yeah i know yes yes yes and i mean junkers was where he was like a celebrity uh famous dog am i right yeah yeah yeah famous dog he basically kicked all of the dogs on the ground and that time 2012 i was catching uh cmc like czech malinois club championship how do you say back uh back half yeah the back half long long long half back half okay okay and i remember today that i was staying beside of the blind prepare myself of course i knew before i never catch him in that distance and like that's like okay and i just heard he heard like in my ears like i bet 30 dollars that he go on the ground i bet 20 that he stand and people were crazy of course people are just crazy it was fantastic dog unbelievable speed and i stand in that moment i catch him clearly beautiful left elbow side and it was one of the best experiences in my life and i do remember that how the applause was not because it was just nice the applause was with heart everything came together yeah that moment i do remember in that time like somebody said like he really stand you know man he really stand with him so this is kind of just experience how you can be emotional in the same moment and of course i was so happy that i didn't hurt him and everything goes like in the pan yeah that's always a concern right like when you're especially on the on the back half but sometimes it can happen and there is always some unhappy people yeah i mean we all i think it's the nature of of the sport and sometimes it's uh the the whole pressure of the competition and everything and and you try to blame everything else but not your training and um um yeah if you if you have a like do you like to have the the judge kind of dictate everything or you like more freedom in your work what do you where do you really pray i really really prefer the freedom freedom i like he say okay you go that pressure time this line this line this way we talk talk to each other we respect each other and if some problem i stop you

that's all okay i don't like this kind of stop showing the re-attack man let me do my thing it takes everything out of of you right it's the same yeah it's the same like i don't agree with this selection and and and you know i i this is another thing i will change you know because do you have a headset when you play ice hockey somebody is coaching you from that right and saying like hey go left right come on man you must be concentrate for the dog judge has enough space to judge the guard judge the re-attack because we have a five second right okay let's say important is to have a same second not one three five okay right but this you can communicate and from time to time to change it but i don't like that i don't like it at all and this is not to disrespect the judge this is about i cannot be myself and especially how do you want to re-attack the dog when you basically watch the judge that is not communication it's completely it's broken i'm not it's broken yes you watch somebody and he show you anyway come on man it's so come on yes i hate it honestly i don't know sometimes why they do it is it as a judge to to kind of okay i'm the judge and i'm the i orchestrate everything or is it or do they do it because they feel that the helper is not capable to do but in in both situation i always prefer yeah to to have the freedom yeah because it's it's yeah it's just so broken up otherwise it's a really good question what is it what did you say is it because of that or what's the basically reason actually okay my personal i would say i have no i have no reason okay right but right we cannot take it that easy like i'm saying and i would be maybe ugly but i would say sometimes this man from my experience that the judge the ego of the judge he just need to be that boss man right sorry to say but sometimes i met the guys i don't know really why because he has his job i have my job we have to be cooperate together do you want me to be to be my helper when i am like ego against you you understand yes do you want to be my helper in that place do you want to be cooperate with me when i am telling you you will do what i'm saying come on man right i hate you in first moment right and then how it should be how it could be how go how goes that competition then and we are the basic it's very different if it's like a club trial and a new helper at this times probably the helper actually feels more secure that they help you a little bit yeah but at some point you have to allow that freedom to the helper to do yeah have to let

let me let me do my thing i also don't go and it's like hey how much you gave him on escape and he's saying i gave him very good low you know i think that's not correct you should give him excellent right is it is it exactly right okay i will go to the judge and say no yes exactly right that's a good one other other thing is that's a good one what we have not really traditional but i don't even can name them i don't know if they like it or not but i would say we have kind of charges and i love them they coming and ask me how was it they communicate with me and people are talking always like hey man jan is competing and he's doing helper work same year man come on do you really think right right i can hurt you and not people see that come on man okay that's that's a bullshit in the same case when the judge asked me was that the chewing before how was the grip really i haven't seen it i'm fucking honest man this is the professional how you can doubt about professional that's there's no way okay that's where you have that i think that's when the the character comes and in the helper work in the judging as well like as a judge you may not like somebody you really may not like somebody but when that person steps on the field you have to do your job yeah and then you have no time to think even who is that and then you continue not to like him it's okay exactly but it's it's it's so contra-productive to be that bad guy front of the 300 400 500 people right i mean yeah people people have to take it more fairly you know but this is the predict things what they predict they just see something obvious for them is clear no discussion that's it yeah he was talking to him why because he want him to be bad that's it the conspiracies are endless yeah yeah they never stop of course yeah tell me about the new rule now with the stick how how let's say let's say you're gonna oh wow i mean chances are you're probably gonna be doing the long bite again and you're not gonna be able to use the stick hit to do like i don't i don't know like maybe maybe it doesn't make difference to you first first thing i would say about that when you heard that that happened man i i need i need to think about it and i have to start to use this picture in training man because i always hit the dog yes right i am so bad and i would say in igp2 man it happened in in somewhere in trial i did maybe like three four times in my life like i did igp2 and because you ended up being igp3 i hit them yes you know and then was a judge coming to me and like man that is no hitting and i say

from which time man when this happened and yeah then i was reading the rules again oh man oh you don't shoot you should not say that very loud but we are just humans right and i didn't i mean it was not not bad anytime i hit them nothing happened they were even more satisfied but again i first i should think about it and i should get my uh work like used for that okay because i expect this i will go and you know it's like 20 years man you write them right after real attack and now not heating for for me so for me as in this position is even this this is maybe the number one why i don't like it if i have to start talking about of course i don't like it but this is maybe number one right how do you want it's like now guys we have no two kilos dumbbell we have the strawberry you know dry textile we throw and you don't even know how to throw it it's yes very good point i don't know i don't really know and for the helpers i don't think it will be easy it will be easy it's the same point like judge is telling you when to re-attack and all you think about it too much thinking too bad you have to not think about it yeah you must be clear you must be seeing the focus and if you are thinking ah what happened if i hit him what what's gonna happen they will change me they will correct me they'll talk to me there will be discussion people will talk and with this mound mood you go inside it is it good no you know what i think i think that um for a while we don't have stick hits i don't think it will make much difference because all of these dogs they are trained with stick kits so even if they don't get it yeah they can feel the pressure and they can imagine the stick kit but in few years the new dogs like there will be dogs that will be truly trained without stick kits so no matter what you are doing they're like yeah whatever you those dogs will be very different for them and as a helper at that point how do you put how do you test the the confidence of the dog with with the dogs right now if we we stop in romania there is no stick kits it's okay because the dogs are still they think oh yeah it's coming it didn't come but in their mind yeah they got hit you know yeah but in two three or maybe five years that there will be dogs that will never have a they never experienced that even honestly i will i will say like that i tried already in the training few times to not hit the dog and i was like of course it's like two steps punch two steps punch it's like 20 years happening this and now not right and i'm i'm using hitting like not the test the dog but to challenge him

first point very very positive thing you you guys know that protection is not like like like nice to meet you in breakfast right it's not shopping it's a war it's a thing it's a it's a serious thing but in a good way okay dog doesn't hurt us we don't hurt them yes and the punching it's like you wanna box me you wanna sparring like man i have to yes you have to feel it a little bit i i need to punch you yes or or you will punch only me you understand dog is already biting me well i need to give him some feedback and you know guys when you do like helper work and you just give them bite and you are like that pussy which one is sleeping in that time dog probably even the good dog will start to think what's it will become boring yes right it will become boring for sure so the first thing about hitting it's not only in that test it's not kind of testing it's a challenge also what is another opinion in my head uh let's say you have a really quality dog and when you hit him he get like over his limit what does it mean of course he not go away and he don't have a bad grip or something but he may be not listening you yes you test another thing you test when the dog even under this kind of pressure and challenge can listen in you okay and that's in my opinion in igp in world championship the main thing yeah because that is for who is go with the dog which has oh has a reaction for the stick who is going that that's not even possible right i don't remember no dog which one have the reaction but the other thing i have to say what was the problem and why they ban it now just cancel the hits why why we guys don't have a conversation and do like how much you hit the dog okay because this is also in this is from my experience i was back half and i know in first part seven dogs in the competition don't got me because that first guy just send them out right send them home exactly after punch in my opinion that was like unnecessary big punch right understand there is this and this is the thing why people cancel that in my opinion okay say it has to be punch but not broke his you know elbows or all spin okay just test him if he has a reaction for touch contact contact with the whip that's the same like sparring you sparring with someone you will go spying with me and you hit me that much that i go tko on the ground maybe i will not sparring with you anymore right and you think i'm bad fighter it's the same you hit the dog which one is young that much that he will never bite on you and you think he's pussy that's not this you know it's the same thing so there needs to be in my opinion

measure how much you the the test him yeah in that in that contact but your question i would say like 10 competition as a helper and eight times happened that the dog went out and i will i'm really like remembering that it was always after touch of the contact with the pressure like physically happened that more in long attack in long attack it happens more because there is that's you know that catch there is important the psychic pressure the change yeah but on the first half it's important that heat yes to be honest there is no space otherwise to make a pressure like physically and long attack in my opinion is exactly psychic i'm saying again psychic pressure important not run to the dog or hit him that crazy or something it's different that's that's from my experience and in first half the heating the touch contact but in in the back half the the heating is there but first is important when the dog bites yes it's the it's the so we can guys in long attack use more like psychic pressure but in first half it will be missing and i have seen already in one world championship without that heating man it's so bad it's not easy it's not easy it's like something is missing there it's like you know it changes the the it changes the sport unfortunately changes the sport there i understand what 10 i understand that people around talk that we beat the dogs well i'm saying there needs to be immediately you know explanation we hit them like this do mind everybody it's the adult say no i don't mind this kind of you know they don't even know but this is i want this is again we are back in the tema why the people around them know from which material is the whip stick right how painful is that right you can comment anytime try for free yes well very true why then don't talk about it we for some reason we that the people that are on top working commissions and whatever we want to call them they i i have the feeling sometimes that they don't defend the sport they just follow oh let's do this and they are okay well we'll change it well i have to have to not love but this is how much are we gonna change it this is so true like you you guys are selected you're elected in these positions to defend let me have sport let me ask you for something do you know how do you guys say in america soccer yeah football football okay for us yeah football not not american football football do you know zinedine zenon yeah of course the french yeah which team he is leading now do you know that i don't coach from which team the real madrid i am okay i don't really know if today

still but he is coach of real madrid fantastic player how old he could be which which year i don't really know yeah yeah it's his he i would think around 50 i i would say 40 something okay 40 something so let's say 45 yeah okay it's okay fair enough 45 age old guy is leading the one of the best club in the world and now got my point i'm 33 do you think that in 45 i will be the president of fci not happening why right tell me why do you think we have a chance i don't mean it badly to against to the old people i respect all people i love my grandma okay but what i want to say the point is that people who how is it in english created the things which are are the bosses of everything they need to be active even they are old they need to be active in the yes to talk with the trainers they have to be in the same level because 19 probably 90 percent are the same level as you know right they are not right they are not they are that that rest of the process and that's 10 so which one side you prefer i know i know many old people i mean old okay was it old yeah i will not say 50 is old you're still fine i mean yes it sounds badly about age i know what you say don't talk about age let's say like people need to be active doesn't matter how old and is it like my really privilege to be boss of fci in 45 no i i don't even want that but i want there is staying somebody who is listening the people they have to listen that who is going and ask them yes who is active who is coming and ask them and talk with them and it's like that guy who is the major of the country is a president is that's it it's a king and these people have to talk with us with young ones have to go they need to be sorry to say mainly active right it's not happening it's not they really have to it and it's easy i think it's an easy concept to represent and defend the sport because what is next like how how far we gonna keep going until we change it so much i don't really know that it's that the kids that are 12 years old now what do you think are they gonna be able to play igp and what would igp look like at that moment probably even worse than before because to you know all the sports as we talk go up they grow grow grow how they grow promotion that's a nickname of growing promotion people need to hear that voice how is promoted dog sport do you know do you know some tv canal some tv program where you have a dog sport every day you know about that yeah okay yeah there's nothing there is nothing and and you know igp or any other dog sport as a general let's be not selfish igp let's say like agility there is millions of people

in the world not millions there is so many people and they can go out and be maybe in the future very soon i guess they can be on olympic games right why you know i will not name them i don't want to make them insult but there is a lot of sports you don't even care yeah you don't even watch that yeah who is caring for something you know it's not sport golf for me it's not sport and somebody say golf is beautiful it's so good game and i'm saying man billiard that's not sport man it's not sport right and somebody said oh it's so difficult of course i have been playing golf also in billiard i'm not saying it's easy and i don't say any shit war i'm saying it's not sport sport for me is like you get wet you put the blood you put the heart there you need to work you need to train and in the end the better win by physically sport for me is like physically of course physically as well but you know that's that's igp nobody knows yeah so little people know that so small so small and it's an interesting sport when it's explained when it's not explained just as you said that was such a good idea it's like hey this there is the stick this is what it looks like yeah feel how it feels it's it yeah do you think he mind right i am i'm you know and in the same moment i'm taking repi from the car or going on the field i'm saying look at that you know i give him bite to the ball and i'm just patting him with that kind of stick which happened in competition and you see yes my dog is not even close the eyes he not has react he like it it's excitement it's like yes i can even hit him more with my hand yes but guys yeah that's that's all about that you know people has no information people has no information so for me number one about this discussion is change that kind of procedure how to get information how to bring it to the sport and grow because i'm very sure lots of people will love it this sport a lot of young people kids even like i'm not saying igp i'm saying completely dog sport there is nothing there is nothing and also when when when somebody decides some rules to get changed ask the competitors yeah it's it's it's our sport was it was it it's our sport ask us it's guys like two weeks ago we had a wall in czech republic about new president i was so feeling bad i'm not there i was there in the first round and we have like kind of second round yeah yeah yeah and when was happening second round i was already here and i was feeling so bad man like a patrio you know yes i was really feeling bad i cannot give that voice right guy and on beginning it was between 12 persons and second

round is only between two that's how it goes the important part that guy we trying to wish he won and i'm so happy but i feel so bad i cannot have voice only one voice maybe nothing happened but this is for me the same in dog sport those guys had promotion around the czech country everybody knows them there is no person which one say i don't know this guy i don't know this guy everybody knows what happening and it's a 10 million people in czech republic yeah and 10 million people know who is now going to be president why even even if it's there is still some manipulations of course in politics of course but everybody everybody knows you feel involved you feel part of it yeah and in our sport we do it we do it for so long we're so passionate about it and we are always told yeah oh you know what we will in igp1 the dog's gonna sit and he's gonna jump over the a-frame and that's it and nobody asks why yes what's the reason how it looks like what are we doing there is no commentator right there is no guy who is saying okay he jumped too early then he touched he will probably lose one point look at that chewing in that holding dumbbell out the speed is also not good i will get seven how much you got there tell me guys on the chat it can make a game amazing commentator promotion and just exclusive you know they have now uh picture of that which one is it that which championship is uh uh bart is gonna do the comment yeah that's happening on this i mean there is some attempt in germany in germany yes yes barbell will go be and that's yeah that's that's exactly a good start but this is this is kind of what we need it's good this is what we need i really respect for the idea i like it too and yeah it's i'm very curious very looking forward for it and he's good at this guy he's a good talker you know well he's good talker yes he can he know what to say he can he can make it interesting to the person that's not interested yeah for sure that there needs to be talented guy who is not shy uh-huh or girl you cannot be even if you say the wrong thing you don't give a still be confident about it you say wrong the thing right well in other hand i would say there should be somebody who is doing igp right true okay i mean i love our bellow i respect but it's still some kind of super good but yeah it's perfect for now yes but in the future there needs to be some really professional igp who understand exactly but i don't know i don't even want to say that barbell on don't understand the excess of course he does but he doesn't not does he compete no in igp no right well it's

something a little detail don't get me back when is there for example somebody who compete like yesterday it's and who understand even a judge you know like in ufc exactly true the ex-judges are today commentators yes ex-competitors are commentators yes yes there you go there you go man 99 from this sports we have to bring our sport that's that's the whole thing that's the whole thing you know what i was thinking i want to switch a little bit let's talk a little bit of training but before we go in deep into protection what is your favorite part of the igp as far as training you mean as a handler or as a handler yeah handler all right so as a handler uh my favorite part and i think i will describe it a little bit more but it's obedience obedience yeah and tracking is of course how you teach the dog dog but dog needs to track alone yes and you don't have to help him in track right yes so basically you are just of one of the part of the game there which one hold them which is the the interesting part of igp right yeah yeah to switch gears and it's like no this is you it's unbelievable this is us together it's a magical it's a magical it's a magical thing that you just give him command on beginning and then you two three two times actually give him another command after article and that's all it's almost like the you know with the birds like with the pigeons you just yeah let it fly watch the nature and when when you've done the right training some people hate tracking because it doesn't go well but when it goes well it's the most peaceful it's a thing watching a dog knowing what to do i think it's a mostly the nature thing right for the dog right so tracking it's about that and i i will not say now about tracking so much because it will be one hour talking but obedience why okay and protection same by the way for everybody yeah when i watch him track it's it's what you want to see you know like you just you just stay behind and you enjoy watching that picture of sync and and just confidence and enjoyment of okay this is what we do it it's not the oh my god oh my god or you know you you don't you won't handle everything right no man let him do the thing respect him and do what you want tracking let's open them a tracking later but yeah obedience why obedience because in obedience i have to say before in protection is the same thing like in tracking you give commands dog has to bite he has to do his things there is a little bit more handling you can actually handle lots of mistakes as a handler as well but in obedience man why i love

obedience because in obedience you promote and you show the people what you have done with your dog it's you and i doing yes now and other thing is cooperation right we go together there and you exactly there have the most mostly the main change the chance sorry the main chance do mistakes so you you can you can you can you can yes yes yes you can do it with him i mean there you're 50 50. you can you can lose the points yes yes exactly that's what i want to say you can lose the points in obedience and there is actually like you also by physically work because it's not only how you how you present your dog of course is the main thing but it's also like how you can present yourself in that moment right main thing is present your dog but present yourself in the right way let's say it's many things you throw the dumbbell badly you stop badly you give him bad bad mimic in turnings yes i'm you know i'm talking fmbb man is the hardest competition in the world and they see everything so you need to be really professional and that's why i love obedience right because you have the privilege to make a part there in protection not nobody really watch the handler like okay if it's something like seats and a little very big help okay but and in tracking as a general is the main so in tracking not even you cannot do even nothing in protection a little bit but in obedience you can do loss and for me number one in obedience is you are showing and presenting what you have done with your dog and that's why i really love that you go compete with your own dog which one you make from puppy right this is number one for me if you buy the dog i respect that of course if you train another dog from two years i respect all okay for sure but there needs to be the different about people how they perceive this obedience he made him from puppy yes it's a different it's a different that's a so so big difference and if the obedience is not like the obedience point wise may not be precise but if you don't have the obedience the that's the obedience the obedience the obedience the obedience is a big one for sure obedience is magical it's it's it's a and and actually as a public person am i right like the funds around the people around it's it's i think most interesting because okay adrenaline protection in tracking for people who has no idea who is igp is a boring and obedience is like wow oh hey and it's different if you're coming there like oh my god i'm going lose everything today or if you go there and i don't give a if i lose but i

enjoy the moment right that's different how you present that that's all about it so if you ask me again am i nervous to enter the field no i'm i'm super exciting finally show the world what i have done with him three years who is that enemy animal and who is that monster beside of me you know it's it's so great it's so great yeah i think it's almost like every everybody that i ask in igp in different sports is different but in igp i think uh everybody that is somewhat successful has that appreciation about obedience yeah it's uh yeah i think it's a king discipline man let me tell you one short story german shepherds wsv just my opinion i'm not saying it's true it's my opinion and wsv who has obedience in the highest points he is a world champion right yes that is tracking everybody that is protection everybody but who has the obedience that is the winners that is the winners yeah most of the time that's it's it yeah it's just after my ex it's it's only from my experience but i'm i'm watching you know also competition like uh like nation nationals nationals not only world championships yeah yeah yeah and i would say it's the same thing it's the same thing obedience is not happening for all dogs because somewhere there is no people there is always people it's on studying though doesn't mean it's fair yeah okay tracking happened somewhere you don't even know what is happening true different which i think they should start yeah i think we need to start to film yeah everything you know like why Why do we not? We like it. I guess working dogs started already with that. In some places when they have opportunity. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's the thing. The difficult thing is with Wi-Fi. What do you mean? Opportunity. There is always opportunity. Just get useful to the dogs. Right. Oh, no, don't come because he can be... This is not fair. Come on. Yes. Is it different obedience? There is many guys with photos. Yes. Many distractions. That's the part of the game. You need to be used for that. Like a ceremony training, like a vet control, like entering the field, like a chip control. All the sites where we not get the points, right? All the things are part of the game. So part of the game is like, I am here today and I will see your dog. Yes. Ciao. People can see finally. And people will love to see it. Yeah, of course. But again, I will... Because even when you train, this is part of the training, you know? Like, I think the most difficulty for a beginner and not even just beginner, but...

IGP trainer, you're doing your tracking, but you have never that picture of what to compare and what is the excellent picture. Because you see excellent obedience, you see excellent protection. And you make a little bit of, okay, I know what I'm trying to do. In tracking, we just because we don't see it enough. We don't like people don't know. Okay. Well, is my dog tracking good or no? Exactly. And sometimes they start to screw up a dog. That's very good tracking. Exactly. Because they don't know. Yeah. It's like you sitting beside of people in the tribune. Yes. Yes. And they are talking like, was it that correct? Yes. And it's obedience or protection. Yes. And it's so funny. But on the other hand, it's so embarrassing because they have to know. Yes. It's like I was yesterday in the Super Bowl watching with you guys. Yes. I have no idea what is even the rules. Right, right, right. Even that, I love it. It's for me so cool to watch that guys like his adrenaline, contact sport, you know, this is the sport. Yes. Yes. Yes. Very cool. But later, I'm asking also like, Gregory or you, what's the principle? What's the rules? Do I have to know it before? Yes. I would say I would like it even more. It becomes more interesting, right? Yeah. Right. You come and it's like you go to soccer, you pay, I don't know, $20 for the entering. You know what you pay for. You enter the competition and IGP, you don't even know what you have to looking for. Right. Do you know who compete there? Okay, let's say like, hey, you know, guys, you see my t-shirt here? It's an Ivan Balabanov logo. I'm coming supporting this guy. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. You know, because I know he's going to die. It's, it's, it's so, so determined for me to be on that position like a, like a fan and know the things around. Right. it goes like this we sending personal message we have a facebook some social media we share with them the card how it goes day before do you think that day before you can schedule your life and just jump to the airplane and fly to florida and watch you ah man probably not right i was in in ufc you know it like half year ago you understand why we cannot draft before you know what i mean you this is another little detail little thing which one can be also really important for the fans and for the people man let's get the like example in florida in tampa will happen world championship fmbb they were competing this guy this guy this guy this guy this girl and they they all have been world champions yes interesting to that of course i am and the same with the new people it's like hey

we've never seen this person we don't know and that guy don't know perfect healing do do he make again the healing you know there is coming this girl she was always 100 she got 100 points nobidia man yes does he make again and you know what is the helper who is the judge there do not introduce everything before this this has like name and that's it basically like the catalog i just thought of the same thing like in the catalog it's so easy have a i mean it's not probably there is work to be done but let's say you open the page there is the number there is the person and there is a qr code yeah and you go on the phone website and boom beautiful the person comes up and a little bit something beautiful idea beautiful idea you want that catalog all of a sudden you want that catalog right and it could be short movie about you know yes i love it well we have done as a helpers many kind of you know i have done lots of promotional videos for this world championship they ask us but what was there do you think there was like hello i'm yanni i love igp sport i'm handler i'm coach i'm trainer i have this dog i have the dog before no that is that's like barking escape long attack right re-attack there is no personality there is no voice nothing and the people are watching only okay he behaved better he behaved this there is like you can think about me what you want but you don't know me well yes is it and this is what the important parts missing yeah right there there is no problem man it's all the time same thing right there how how long it takes how long it takes to know you okay how long it takes somebody's coming today let's say my sister don't know you she has no idea and she will meet you first time and okay i'll say okay he's like that and that but she can see that before yes and get ready and then see more things right what is it i maybe maybe conversation like this will start to excite some people and get some ideas more and and maybe we change it you know we should change it we should change it it's like you can see the ceremony we are saying you know czech guys won olympic games in nagano i have been in that time like nine years old i do remember that even today after how much i don't know now but like 24 years old what and i do remember that do you think somebody give a f**k that i was vice champion in 2016 in right that's the that's the thing people don't know no you know and we as a team yes have been many times on podium not not one person as a team yes czech republic or you know what i mean usa it doesn't matter i'm just saying no no it's exactly right this

is the this is they have no idea yeah hopefully hopefully somebody's listening and get some ideas there is people that are so good at this too you know they're naturally and i believe i'm i'm quite i'm super sure not quite i'm super sure there is a lot of people which one can come and give a hand to help and do it lots of business stuff yeah there is there is jobs to do but it must go first to the people like open it don't hide anything guys do just show them okay so diplomacy you know no no politics show them i'm gonna jump into something else because it just comes in that's how my brain works you know i'm just between your two dogs i'm just doing little promotion for coca-cola between the two dogs fjorni and reppy yes how are they different to you how is it how how much did you have to change what you did with the big boy can we take a break i can have like one hour thinking wow man i love it okay the first thing different between them is that rap is uh i don't even know what to say no it's it's it's it's it's a little bit so did you change the no no i will let me let me yeah i'll let you sit let me let me let me sad with that um rap is you know rap is different mainly in this kind of um social thing against to me he's much he's he's just lovely boy against to me okay he just he as a dog would never ever hurt me he is kind of dog which is like he's my soul mate he's like my partner and he just loves me at all i mean he works for me and i feel it since beginning since i i just you know i choose him between one and second second second i just watch him in you know four or five weeks i don't remember and i say okay i take him i bring him home and he gives all the love to me i'm not talking about training in training he's absolutely fantastic yeah the same way like a forny was but the biggest difference i have to talk about is like how he behave against to me okay forny was different forny never loves this path he never gives me like i like you like person like he of course he like pat but different way right not that much this this i'm gonna say guy this guy this this boy man he he just lives with me he lives do you think you also got better and more like you're paying more attention now let's take it better with this side because it's this is less emotional for me much easier to talk about it because yeah uh well i i'm i'm very very sure that to say i i didn't prove anything it's it's it's lie okay it's not true of course if i knew what i know today yes maybe it could be even better and even different of course i improve myself of course man that is just about these social things

i have like kind of 30 40 comments around igp which reppy knows forny had no idea about those yes like in home you know another thing forny was never at home reppy lives with me yes i mean he can be in canal he can be outside freedom of the house in property he can ask now one month most popular for him he sleep in one bed with me forny never did that and i mean people asking me but was it because of your behavior or maybe when you treat with him like with reppy maybe he also was like that i'm saying no guys i try it i wish that yeah yeah that was one point why i take mali because german shepherd not contact like this right mali is your yes he's your buddies they're more they're more needy more they appreciate that yeah yeah before he was not he is that boss he was just that boss and i respect it right he like pat but he was that much boss he don't he don't give a right you pass my man okay but reppy you buy them and he's like oh man thank you i like it i love you too so about but again jump what you said more important maybe more interesting for the people is like that trainers things i would start with this kind of you know reppy knows waiting reppy knows he has to not go left i have a command for that i have command like don't go inside right i have a command wait me like 300 meters there i have a command like give me the ball and don't care enough it's like enough right for me he knows just igp commands yes okay reppy knows like coming to me and he knows coming to me in back position and front position and he you know many things i explained to him and i i enjoy really that i really enjoy that what this means yes my knowledge are higher going up yes and as a preparation about i already when i when i too came i already have the movie in my head what is gonna happen how i will teach him this and this and this and this and man it's still happening right like i in the past thought this is beautiful when i took forny i had no idea what i gonna do when he will be one year and this is very truly uh showing to the people reppy is two years today and he has igp too too and and even though watching you train you're very like you you have your vision you have your plan you're very methodical you know where you're going which is very cool to see over and over again you know yes yes and um um but that side of the training that's never talked about is that side that you just said about these extra things this you know like all the all the sauce around the not not just the field but like those other things i think there is dogs that appreciate that and they just excel because not

because of the training on the field but because of who you are with them yeah outside the field communication yeah yeah yeah yeah exactly i'm always saying like in training like do you wanna sit him tell him that piece before you're gonna do anything just tell him you wanna do something from him tell him that right so i mean uh the another thing is that reppy much more perceive me but that's that's that's relative with what i'm saying personality personality yes he he i'm doing just this kind of sound and he okay i know if i do too for me he don't it's like whatever okay it's kind of sound of the bird but in the other hand i would say uh i have never ever to i mean to be fair you know i i still don't got it today to be honest 100 percent i'm not really sure people maybe will say like hey that's it's different but i i really honestly i don't got it how was it because forny was kind of boss he was kind of champs he's he he just born right he was he was blue he was only one in the litter and i choose him the same way like reppy just in first contact like first laugh and whole a life together 10 years was kind of challenge for me kind of challenge with reppy it's kind of beautiful relationship that is there is challenge to be you know i would say differently with forny my dream was go to world championship okay be honest with reppy i want to win that yes that's it that's it so let's say like that i'm let's make it happen yeah in the other you know how i divide them like just from way back when i used to live in belgium and you know how i have this popping out of the diopatra yeah yeah um but i would talk to the guys back in the like just old school belgium ring clubs and whatever and the breeders and and they would always divide them talking these conversations like you have that primitive type then you have this more trainable type more kind of into your type but they are more important to have because if you if you don't have that primitive type and you always do the trainable dog you lose this yeah and that's important too it's just a little different you have to adapt to to what you do and and not necessarily try to change it just go with what the dog who it is because you can't change it you have to kind of give it what he wants right i got it and uh when when you have you know like i don't i don't even know where you are with this but there is trainers that would really keep purposefully the dog in a kennel or in a crate most of the time of the day thinking that the dog's gonna really really want them and then they come on the field and they do

something and then it's back there so they wanted more yeah and then there is the other option just as you said where the dog sleeps on the bed for a whole month and gets spoiled and gets to interact which dog gives you more yeah the one that it's restricted always yeah or the one that's up with you you know yeah i'm it's a it's a question like what i think about it i mean everybody that's exactly describing these two boys right and reppy right forney was whole life in kennel he was and this is another this is one of the side of the picture which one educates me in my life uh dog has to be looking forward when you come and give the energy right now okay the rest is not important i was educated like from the kennel or kennel sorry club where i yeah became the hand or something i was a german shepherd whole life then was coming for me was he a little bit like german shepherd yes he was a little bit like german shepherd he don't give a if i come like morning and afternoon or something he's he's doing these things he's fine he's fine there and he don't need me he doesn't need me okay obviously and i did that in that time i didn't even realize that that's the answer of everything reppy come what do you think he was coming first go to house he was with me in the kitchen that's our first picture i live on the ground with him and he's just sleeping with me second picture is in the bed how is it different i would say forney was like my first money in my life i i tested everything basically i have no idea before i had german shepherds i got experience how to prepare the dog for igp3 i have no idea how to prepare them for what championship right with reppy i have i have knowledge from for me you know who made the champ from for for me for me yeah it's all about him and he was in kennel do you think it was wrong i i don't think so i don't think so because we became very successful together yes so in the what my point is like basically it's individual the type of dog yes the type of dog and of course how your life is going if you have this chance to have him outside or you prefer that i mean it's like spontaneous and basically in the end it doesn't matter because you choose that how you can know he will like it or not you choose when he's baby right so people have to not really think about it it's like let him let them do it and i will just finish this tema about like in my opinion i have heard once in my life i don't remember who was it but dog has to work for you dog has to not work for the ball i was very young and

how i can have my 40 kilos german shepherd ugly dirty like hell in my butt right what do you mean oh he has to work for you and he will work for you because he will sleep with you and i thought why are you crazy and today he's sleeping with me every day you know so it changed and i mean it's in my opinion as i said you know the top of the you know the peak of this tema is like it's just about how your life is and paying paying attention who you have in front yeah yeah for what you want and you know as forny was able to do that the same performance like reppi and he was living out of me reppi lives with me all the time 24 7 and they do same job so did you take more time with reppi i mean yeah yeah yeah that's that's all i feel so bad because i'm saying if i knew but that's not possible if i knew it's like always if if if if if i knew this what i know today and i give forny even maybe it was even better because as you say you know how how you know today he's two years old man right and he is igp too many excellent forny was doing one year later and this describe everything this is answer for your question of course man you know he was one year old and he knew basically almost everything i was like where we where do we go right what do i teach him now i mean it not in bad way of course it's not excellent everything there is so many details but i was from forny's life not not not really ready by my psychic for that yeah and that's today like i'm so worried is he ready in you know like age maturing he shows me i am ready for everything i want to do everything but do you know really sure let's try otherwise we never know yeah how how soon do you start like what do you like what is an advice for people you know people wait sometimes they're like okay well he's six months old we let it grow up sometimes it's like well no we we really start training very hard do you have any prescription again the same it's a it's a so specific so individual for the dog for the dog i i would never say numbers i i not even use i would say for bite work of course dog has to change the tooth okay he should be healthy and ready but i would say like you as a handler should watch how the dogs behave around you need to read him obviously it will be very difficult to watch him around if you just take him from kennel to the field what does what does it mean you have to spend time with him out of the field right and that's another answer basically it's much more better if you also live with him a little bit you can watch you see

you can see how he behaves how you want to know the personality if you you just give him to kennel you give him food you take him out for 15 minutes and back kennel stadium can man that's right life right okay so i learned how to study dog to take him with me and that's exactly another thing why i know him better why i know how to be ready it's like a mom which which study he her her baby she know mainly what that baby want before that baby start to talk yeah yeah right yeah the same life is with the dogs they cannot tell you but they can show you yeah and if you don't know how they behave there and there why you cannot understand so if i see the dog like he start to bark somewhere somehow okay probably is ready maybe we're ready baby baby is going and he's even thinking what the trip is and like what that man you better not start protection with him okay and when you do protection or train what you do would you do do you do anything with your own dog in protection oh yeah man i did actually reppy i did like until you know now i have this guy and before i i i had another guy vatslav oška we train like time to time but like not not that much that i don't need to use myself so basically until one year i i did like 90 percent by myself with reppy and also even the way yeah the way you play yeah you're still showing the elements right it's yeah and i think it's super cool because you can study him i mean it's about dog again i my dogs never mind i don't know i have no dog in my life which one mind to do protection by myself with you right yes but i have seen dogs which one mind which one take it oh no that's i cannot do that on you right right there i've seen that you know and now is the question and it doesn't make it bad dog it's just he's like no i cannot do that with you yes it's papa right you know right it's like mama is coming i will not bark on her right i have i don't have this experience man i don't i never all dogs i had of course they bite on me you know who is like this is kimba yeah i could not make her she she's just like i cannot bark at you like this and then you see her yes but she's so young she has no people has to have to understand in this point maybe to describe them you know a little bit because we know what's what's going on right it's not about character of the dog like that it's what what's the reason in your opinion what do you think people have to understand why this dog and this dog can and this one not yeah it's a it's a good one i think my my opinion sometimes is the day

when when you ask certain dogs it's like hey it's a game but be come come at me more strong and and they have a problem they they are like i i know what you want me to do but i feel it's wrong um do you think it can be like about people like it's like you go with your son and you say hey hit me you go sparring boxing and you say hit me and he i cannot careful right and then it's coming older son and he say hit me and he hit you in that moment yeah and he say and he will ask me to you ask me to do that right don't you think it's like that yeah yeah it has to be it has i actually ask you because you're so better with experience you have so much more experience than me i don't know what to answer of that yeah i think it's a it's a that that's i that i i would agree with that because it's a it's a personality and it doesn't make the dog good or bad and i think it's really personality it's the dogs has people think it's a just dog you know it's just a thing well we are talking now and i i am using the word dog you know in my family man there's nobody saying about rapid he's a dog man and it's just like we just treat like that they call him king they call him the master and many nick's name but they never say where is your dog in english it's very common man and i've been like with a friend spending here very long time and i was always saying like what do you mean my dog you mean you mean rappy you know what i mean it's like okay a little bit because people think it's just a dog and he see only that way on that way in my opinion they have much more feeling than even some people they have a big feeling they can watch that how they can read the situations for example i am going now out from the house and he is already staying on the couch and showing me like i'm all right man don't worry about me right now i'm staying here how he how he can know i am going out with it without him without yeah i cannot get it man and he's like this all life i people asking what kind of ritual you have for obedience and protection of course i have kind of preparation but you know man i just take him out and he knows i thought it's so difficult to explain and so difficult to answer for those questions i'm only saying that's not just about the way that you know dogs are super smart super emotional and you we we are so limited in perceiving how they are thinking yeah we're we're we're getting better at paying attention to that element of training of the emotional part we're getting much better yeah it wasn't there yeah

like for sure for 15 years ago even it was like yeah of course we love the dogs and everything but we didn't think that it has such a impact yeah for sure man that's that's that's 100 we we are so much better training i remember way back it's like hey you're training the dog and it's like hey no don't talk to him like a baby don't do this don't do whatever yeah like it it and it shifted it distracted and today they want it you know that they like it and you talk to yes exactly and you know that's the thing we are good such as good trainers and more but i mean you you maybe got my point i don't know dogs are still same right yes you know what i mean yeah we don't know how they can prove they don't have schools about brain thinking okay so basically we are on this side and we need to get there so i mean perceive them watch them treat with them like with the kids with the people not just with the thing which one is does barking and eating you know that's that's what i mean and there is also to be patient you know sometimes you have to believe your dog and you gotta give it a chance and and and there is steps it's not like you have a four month old puppy and now you are like okay i'm gonna act like i am at the world championship yeah yeah i think you know you you have to come back to no he's a four-month-old puppy he needs a different thing could you say the most important thing about handler i mean the character the thing you need to have you you for sure know already what i'm talking about which thing needs to have every successful handler also helper and every another person which own the dog what's the thing tell me please the number one the number one to be able open the dog treat the dog has to know that he can trust you and that it's loved so love trust and how to get to that love with your feeling right yes you have to express it you have to you cannot be always like a stone wall yeah man you have to that's it people around the world are like i'm taking him because i like him does he like you right right so we had to do the florida thing because the bugs are coming and yeah that's very important stuff yeah good good good good okay um um yeah man so i i love the conversation cheers love it um with how how you know that the the the crazy dynamics between being a helper a training helper working with the handlers especially when you when you're somebody on new level being vice world champion being world champion helper and you have a group of trainers

and you have the trainers that just want to enjoy the sport you have the trainers that are really really motivated to become top and there is it's a special thing like i will tell you before you start i will tell you i was very bad i in my early years i thought that everybody has to be like me and i made people cry on the field because of this crazy thing and then it wasn't a sudden thing but i changed little by little but there is something with that right oh how how do you what what do you do where do you how do we handle i i i have to say like first thing of at all you know man i think it's easier to be in position like you are like 45 50 and teach to people like i'm in the age it's it's it's it's a it's a difficult thing man it's a difficult man because i was you know today i'm 33 and still i meet the people who are mostly older than me right in my position it's so i've it's so difficult to stand to stay in front of them and just lead them lead them okay it's it's not easy and especially convincing them yeah that what their idea is it's not gonna they have done they have done so much more right in life right they have so much more experience it's like you are teaching your father and now grandfather and and all around you know so this is kind of thing which one always make happening things in my head and it's it's it's really difficult honestly for the psychic to have i mean to have a courage and don't give a about like i'm talking to you and i i take it very seriously and very respectful for me it's kind of traditional to behave to older people like with respect much more than the younger people because young people and especially today they have no idea what the respect is how to respect the people you know it's kind of respect but not that respect which one we need to have there and for me as i respect my dog i respect the people which one i lead which one i i teach okay so one of the thing is well let's take it on the other hand uh i'm teaching people for reason for me it's like kind of think why i born i i want i told i want i told you the story i was young i was small kid and i said i want to be coach why you want why do you want to be the coach because you feel need to help people yes that that's that's the only only reason i i i feel need that help people that's your contribution yes exactly contribution that thank you very much that's the world contribution and if i am there just because i cannot be the right coach so basically it's very difficult to see that trainer in the right way when it's happening like you yell to

the people or you are not not in the right mood today we are just the humans right okay we are not the computers right we cannot be in the same mood every day and about myself i i am like this okay i i i treat about situation i i read the situation as i read the dogs i read the people so again the feeling is number one i want to say to be a good coach if you have your you have a power in your mind you need to discharge to the people in the right way if the power is going to the psychic like disturbing and and a bothered people and and billy them it's it's not that's not the code that's not the thing you need to give them the motivation you need you as a teacher has to be have to be like also motivator give them motivation am i right yeah you know what i mean for sure so if i'm training people i prefer to train with people the same ones the regular trainings i spend the time around with them not only on the field it's the same thing like with the dog to know the dog i need to spend the time with him around to read him read him like a kid and especially because he cannot tell me so this is the same with people you meet the person which one telling you immediately i don't like it i like this can we do like that but then you this is perfect but then you meet the person never telling you i don't like it and you just figure it out after many times training happened badly and you don't got it in that right moment so conversation and trusting it's the point between i prefer to be like a coach which one motivates the people and which one gives them the hope doesn't matter they are on different levels it's same for me we be again as i said on beginning of our podcast it's family be friends and trust each other in another things so what does it mean we have to go and spend the time out we have to go and talk about another thing something else yes give give them the point give them man give them the point to talk to you figure out how they are and then you maybe become better coach you cannot just take it in one picture like coach talks now and take okay this guy is just like this no do you know about him something around no true so that that's that's the first thing so as we talk about you you asked me before what age you start with the dog or how do you see he is ready i mean the same is with the people and this was my beginning i coming to the doc training place and they see i'm so exciting do they need to give me motivation no i was motivated enough yes yes and then it's coming somebody who has not that much motivation and you immediately just kill him no man this is not sport for you

well to be honest is also important but be honest doesn't mean killing you okay so you need you need to be like a coach which one give you honest answer about your training but you need to also understand how you like and what's your points and what's your goal about your life right right it's the whole a whole different set of skill is to coach the person yeah yeah that's that means as we are coaches we don't coach only your training and my in my way it's also coach to maybe make the people better right in other ways you know what i mean maybe change them in other ways like coming the girl she's so shy coming the guy he's so shy he never talked with others and maybe because of me and i just naturally and spontaneously give him the point which one he can talk about he became more open you know and then he can figure it out right right there is this one other element of being the helper and you're working with the dog and you're trying to create the right mood between you and the dog yeah and and and your adrenaline is up yeah and then you talk to the handler and the handler thinks that you're angry at them and you're not angry at them you're in the moment of of this yeah exactly this always is a delicate situation no no matter how we try to explain it's like sometimes i know they for me they sometimes they will be like oh he's just too too intense and he he can yell at you or something it's like yeah i'm not yelling at you i am in a moment of we are really it's a situation with the dog you know like i'm acting exactly and i don't want to stop acting now just to talk polite to you like you have to see it you know but the question is how you can see that if you don't know that person right okay how you can see that so maybe before we start outside let's know each other man it's like i will say very stupid thing but you date with the girl and you immediately get married and when probably not well right so you need to see first what she like what you like and what to fix and that's the same in my opinion training to know each other more yeah the outside background what is happening right now what's your goal you know i will tell you something uh not today not anymore today but i'm not saying never it happened again in the past i have really really bad experience from the training like i was i was always only it will be like this or it's bad i was just like black and white okay yeah i'm still but i give the choice today and it was like okay this guy is coming to my training i have no idea who he is and he's describing me what he wants in the training and in the end of the

training i'm telling him okay man do you want to train with me or do you just want your dog have a fun with me what does it means okay we can describe it different but it's the two sides if you want your dog just have a fun i will give my best to make him happy and satisfy and give him comfortable training yeah but i will not coach you i will not say this is bad i will not disturb you i will not believe you at all basically i will not coach you right right but if you want to train with me i will tell you all the mistakes around i will tell i will be very honest and then it's up to you but this i'm saying before the training i i'm saying i was saying that before not today because obviously i learned that i can read it differently because yeah on beginning it was like bad experience many times and then in the end as you said on your beginning you let yell to people and they crying even you know and i felt so bad and then i said what how to get out of this right and then i created this kind of questions this kind of sentence before like man tell me what you really want and then i can behave to you like you want and later i figure out it's maybe give selection to the people and especially front of the public they don't feel good if you ask them like this you know it's it's a lot of you you need to read it and then i was like okay maybe i have to not ask them like really this strict question this really straight question because not everybody can got it and i stopped with that and it goes well because simply i learned more english words i learned more communication with the people how how to ask them differently that they can take it open up and yeah and then yeah and be comfortable talking right but but still still still is the same thing you need to know you need to know when i meet you i don't need to ask you if you want to just that or this i i know you are the famous trainer and of course you want maximum of the training right but another thing is like do you want to know my opinion and i i i know today i know from my experience how to read that but when you start you have no idea how to read that okay i can read on you and and did i ask you never never but i can read it so that's kind of yeah yeah that that's uh and it's not even just time i think you it's it's like with the dogs you you have to have some talent to to be a teacher yeah and do you find people being more unpatient or or do you find that most people actually take too much time when they train okay man especially beginners are unpatient right they just want it today you know they they don't got it but

again we are back again we are back there needs to be saying you wanna do become that guy of course you don't need to train 20 years you can be under a really good coach in three four years almost the same maybe not in experience but the same level on the field right yeah true yeah very true yeah when you have the right leaders okay around people and everything but still we don't talk about weeks days we talk about years that's another thing so people around they have no idea how long it takes to teach that excellent sit excellent healing beautiful behavior before you start entering the field okay and people have to know that before they buy the dog and they it's like not hey man do you wanna be the helper or you wanna be the handler just take a dog and come one year you will be okay it's not and tell me now is there any kind of sport which one you became the superstar in one year or two years man it's even longer that's the thing i think this is where the good and the bad of social media and internet you know like there is so much information yeah but you have to know what you take because i think the the internet sometimes pushes you in the wrong way it pushes you to the people only see the nice things right right people only see the nice things they don't see the sacrifice any sacrifice they have no idea but it's everywhere man you know you must just win in lottery to be a rich guy that's the only way like zack others you need to earn that work for that i i have seen many kind of uh posting about this like about these pictures you know like handler have a goal and then handler don't see the road the journey right yes yes you know what i mean yeah yeah yeah but it's as a one picture what about people who have no idea about dog sport they don't understand what do you mean okay they just probably think like okay this is the stupid guy and this is the smart guy and then you have the the marketing of the you know the the i don't know influencer whatever it's like yeah yeah they they some some some people really believe that there is a magic you can just yeah touch you and you know we haven't yeah as i would be so nice as arnie there is no pill which one make you that kind of biceps i've had that in in this time in this age and this kind of super smart people why they could not have opinions about how go is it with the dog i mean we're talking still about sports but i mean just just just have a dog in the right way in just for life right you know buy some board the collie or golden retriever and have a great time with him and know how he is behaving you know how often you you do

like like what after after a seminar how how long does it take you like can you do three day seminar and go straight to training your dog or do you need some time to recover from seminars how do you deal with that well when is when you know i would say i have a crazy life about this and it's it's just kind of lifestyle it's it's just my lifestyle and i believe that that's why i'm here and reppy lives this crazy life with me so he is everywhere with me and well when i am like here one month we have trainings friday saturday sunday and then i have like basically four days free that four days i use for myself first day after workshop i need to get recovered so it's kind of let's say shortly i get jogging i get stretching i go gym i go swim i get relaxed mainly you need to be clear the brain in the brain you need to rest so it means out of the people don't talk to me let me be i want to be alone and uh for that time i'm using also you know as a general today training with my dog it's like healing i go with him walk obedience tracking especially tracking that's man that's my passion it's i can be there i don't i don't mind to wait one hour to age for the track track i use that time for myself and yes you know it's beautiful it's so beautiful i love it and i believe he loves it too because we are together yes okay he don't need to wait me like in this workshop i work like approximately usually six five six hours and he's just alone do you think he like it you have no idea he just in kennel one by one meter okay and he just wait you yeah like front of the house doesn't matter do you think he like it i'm so sorry of course he probably doesn't like it if he is super tired he can sleep but he will probably have the boring time and he must do that i'm sorry he must do that right and he it's not his decision do anyone in the world think about that that he is waiting you i know man i and i can tell you every simply day i work i am i have him here i know he's waiting me i know he's staying there and first so well let's say first thing after workshop i don't even change the clothes i hate it because you're so sore you're so tired your head is doesn't work hand doesn't work legs are tired you go back to him you pat him you meet him like you go walk and you don't want to meet anyone right this is my picture and i give everything to the field and when it's end i'm just like it's close guys it's empty yes and i will be able to work after two three hours again at least with my hat but not right now now is my time and my dog is there you know and let's say a

little bit funny man when i when i do workshop after that work i have not even tasty and feeling to walk him right i am so tired okay and i just go out because i i have a feeling for him but basically i do not enjoy that really like that think you must do that okay yeah and then it comes after workshop the first day i love i i was saying this like 100 times here in florida like i love monday you know people love saturday and sunday i do not but i mean i like my job yeah i like the work but as a general i love monday you know why because it's the work it's me it's you it's only my day me and repi and we together we go tracking we go jogging i go gym stretching movie whatever i have a good question for you that's it how do you do you ever catch yourself like you're like okay i i i want to train and then you catch yourself that you're not in the right mood yeah and you you decide not to train yeah you catch yourself yeah definitely man sometimes it's hard for me definitely sometimes i am like man okay it's like really my only option yeah and yeah i understand it's the best to to be able to check yourself and say it's not productive got you got you and this is i think very very very much often happening right but i swear to god when i feel not good i do not try that's cool because it's not his fault and i will never ever do you know of course how do i can have how i dare to say it now because i have experience from that it happened few times and i said all right since today man it was the last time it's over i don't feel optimal i better not do that and that's the same thing sorry to continue but i will maybe jump another tema it's another thing like you go uh train protection and as a coach are you today in that right mood right huh are you that's also it's professional yes professional nobody give a if you not yes but you need to treat like that that's that's that i mean about your dog you decide but right here i am today i mean can happen anything you know what you have to perform yes i have to done the thing cheers cheers but the the thing with the dog what is really like i i always i'm much like i'm not i i well that's gonna come out wrong i'm not lazy trainer i i train i mean you are definitely i'm not lazy but i don't know how to like i i don't believe so much in repetition repetition repetition repetition i believe in when i really have that feeling that i'm gonna have a good session that one session can equal 10 other sessions that are just repetition yeah right yeah it's so man it makes sense it makes sense we call it hobby job my hobby becomes my job

do you still like your job every simply second day i hear this question of course i love it man i born for to do what i want yes i didn't born for to do something what i don't want so if i work i want that yes okay and this is kind of preparation before so let's say like this we see trainers i train protection i have done also training obedience i have done also training tracking man i will tell you right now i will change that position with that guys who train only obedience and tracking like today yesterday i will do that i don't feel bad to say that really sorry but man you know what's the different in tracking you watch the dog you talk you have no leash in the hand oh you can have but you don't care in the same moment that dog has injury yeah there is no other in obedience you have so much time that the dog don't don't don't that that dog doesn't want to kill you he can rest and you can talk to that person there is so much space there's so much rooms to talk in protection if i would take it like this man people will be not happy so you need to be super quick super smart you need to have it right now and you must watch handler dog you must watch injury yourself himself you need to care whole thing about in the same moment so it's uh sorry to say to everybody trainers in obedience but man you cannot compare that right right right and if somebody is saying like you're job is much more about physically and my job about like talking that's not true man that's not true we are again back what i said yeah do you want to train with me or i just do physically okay if i'm just a helper which one is by physically and tell you hello and goodbye yes okay that's a different story but that's not the coach so in my opinion to be coach in protection is the most difficult part of the game honestly honestly honestly different set of emotions different set of and everything goes fast and it goes right now and you are you are you you know you are like oh you are tired you are sore and you see the dog has not out and he's just destroying your sleeve which one costs like 300 dollars yes that guy is not care and people around watch that and you are so stressed or your elbow gets up for no reason you have pain and you need to talk man this is i'm not saying it's easy everybody knows it's not easy but you can handle that let's talk about preparation preparation is my nickname man i like everything there i give everything there okay when is the training it doesn't matter is one day two days three days i get prepared for that i want to know what kind of

dogs are there i don't want to come and say like okay here we are and just now get used it's all about preparation so i'm asking sometimes i feel bad to ask but i'm asking many questions like what kind of dogs are there which kind of level they are what kind of people you have what is the goal how it looks the terrain how is the ground how looks the weather and basically we are in almost in the end for preparation and then i get used for that right then i get used for that and i'm coming and i can get my all if i'm coming without that cannot be the same cannot be the same okay football player is preparing himself every simple day he's professional okay yeah i am the coach and i am professional how you can doubt about do you think he will take that equipment man this is the littlest thing as a short that's the smallest thing but what about question like hey do he does does he know what what what what kind of talks we have here and it's not answer the right answer we have malinois right yeah right yeah that's not the answer that's not what i'm talking about it's a malinois igp3 he want to go fmbb that's a dog which one is two years and he has just focus for that exercise that's a dog which one is very heavy you you need to you know and that's the mental preparation i'm saying now you know that's what makes your job yeah enjoyable and interesting because you're in it and you have all the pieces and now you use them yeah as you said are you tired and this after three days workshop two days workshop another day is free basically it's not free i get ready i go monday that is a gym two hours that i go run second day i go swim i go run then it's third day i i take it free i get like mental preparation it's not just free it's like mental preparation still you still in the air you're still in the game yeah and then it's coming thursday you get ready you packing yourself you just make all ready and you prepare and then you go and i was many times going in the car with somebody and people talk and talk and talk and ask 99 i say like let let me focus a little bit please let you know give me time i know exactly what give me space yes because if i will talk with you now like three hours i will be very empty there right right and you i'm not meaning that badly but let me this energy discharge to that job yes okay and people maybe get better if they knew that it's not easy man you know how is traveling difficult how tired you are from the ladder checking man it's so crazy i'm always saying and sometimes you

don't even know where you're gonna sleep and what is you have no idea you know you have no idea and you are just alone one one black between the whites yeah and i i was saying million times already if something killing me man one day will kill me the traveling when i get there on the field and myself i'm there i'm 100 i'm the best i master i'm there but before the traveling the way around what nobody see yes it's killing me it's just killing me and i i believe you have the same yeah that's that's that's a that's a universal thing when we when you're in this field of who knows that people of girls how was your trip and now should i really do i have to really describe that right that's the best question man always like i i mean not badly it's okay what should you say what do you what do you say yeah yeah i'm here i'm okay we're making it but sometimes you have a really short but most of the time is not that short and and i'm saying that that guy that that sadly he's like i love your life and i'm saying what do you love i love the traveling right man you still you still have no idea man i i love it too there is times where you you're you don't even know where you are you're in and you're out delay that the waiting delay that so much responsibility i am not talking about you travel with the dog this was my first experience here to come to florida and i'm so grateful that you gave me that opportunity come with reppy but man when i gave him to that canal and the doors close i was on the way cry man i said like i don't i don't know what's happening not often but things can go wrong 15 hours you don't see him right i was honestly i was going and take a beer and you know i took like one two three four couple of more and like it just just this this this hope everything is gonna be fine in the other hand you have so much experience and you telling me in the messenger man it's okay it's gonna be all right and i and this helped so much this hell and i really pressure it because you alone man alone you cannot do anything you can't create anything you need the people around people who which one you can trust yes so traveling alone bad traveling with a dog super bad super bad yeah no question what about the like talking about still performing and and people do you find being the the helper you are and everybody knows that you're so good with the long bites and i'm sure there is times where people just come to to do that not even realizing how much more you can deliver but that's all they want do you have that or no like i would think you have people

like this that come but i i don't really got that point can you describe it you know like when you when you have like your your everybody knows like you have a very good talent on long bites okay okay so there's gotta be people that come to seminar and they're like okay this is the only thing the only reason i'm here is to do the long bites but you as a helper you see that you can be helping in so many other places i got it i got it but they are so fixated on this one thing that they miss they actually waste the seminar because of that yeah yeah of course now i got it i'm sorry i didn't got it immediately i know now um very often yeah so very often i could say like 17 30 yeah 70 go for this you know and then eventually maybe they change as they work more with you yeah i mean the better because you have so many other things yeah too this is definitely happening but i would say differently like describe that question uh in in in my opinion in whole world in igp is missing good good good catchers good guys which one can technically and safety catch the dog yes and that's why of course they're coming to me because they know i i can save that dog and i am for him there right doesn't matter how how exercise is there is different kind of long attacks okay yes and because i can be flexible and adaptive it means i will i will even ask you you wanna you know like i will stand and just catch him give comfort giving teaching foundation about it or you wanna pressure you wanna competition you want fmbb long attack right you know right right so i i accept that very much but people need to see that there is no out for example after that catching so and this is another thing and i would say get out of this is what you want and i am coach and i am but i'm also only figurant i told you and if i have to coach you i will tell your dog he has no problem in long attack let's do escape because they escape he's very bad or barking guard transport when you prepare the dog in the guarding and and escape bite you actually are creating yes the nice long bite yes but they don't know exactly the point they don't know that that's that's that's the whole process of preparation all about that man all about that and this is like thank you so much this is this is super super thing super point you say because basically i want to be here here and i'm here and i'm coming to you to make that point today yeah you know what i mean you guys come here then we go there this is where we need to start and the better this point is the better this one okay

but that's that's all dog sport step by step you cannot teach today on the track every step's food and tomorrow no food yeah or or healing yeah you cannot just go and start healing you gotta yeah make the dog ready to want to heal in that way of course of course as i as i i it's still the same as i said it's i respect that if that person comes to me like this i you know i smartly smartly manage that so for example coming the woman yesterday here i won't focus for long attacks well do i come on the field and say okay standing for 50 55 meters right right right of course not and i'm leaning where my mom and she has no idea what's happening what's going on and why she just she's just waiting for for what she wanted to do yeah and i pressurate that at least there was some communication so another tip before you go to train with somebody you don't know ask your coach what you have to describe your dog and your training be able to work without your coach that's another thing yeah so i am in in that level that i can read it that you're not ready for this okay but there are guys who have no idea and they will really do that they were really coming okay standing bum he fall he fall he fall he fall what should i do i do where are we going yeah i understand so i mean in today i'm able really read that kind of situation that there is not that is happening i can manage it but that's a lot of experience and it's not like how it goes normally so your question is perfect about like people yes people people focus on it but i always manage that like it will be good for the dog yeah yeah yeah yeah before we wrap it up i know i know a lot of and i wouldn't even say young helpers i would say beginner helpers regardless of the age but i know many will listen to this podcast because of your talent what what do you tell them where how do how how do you learn where to go how is there even a recipe of how to get better at being a good helper well i think first most important is it doesn't matter how old are you but to be i don't know really if i'm right in english but to be good good student that means listening you need to have action yes instruction you need to be able perceive what i'm telling you or somebody telling you i mean i don't really know how to say that but you you need to be able perceive what they're telling you okay to be not ego no ego ego is throw it throw it away man throw it away it doesn't matter what you have done before just and and you know doesn't matter you are even better man than i am if i teach you

now you're coming to me and you want to learn you must be open for that that's for me number one if somebody wants to learn he must be they must be able to be open for everything second thing when you perceive all and you're listening you must be determined motivated and just like black and white if i do in my life something i can concrete anything i can be anywhere maybe i cannot be nba best basket blade player because i'm so small but i still will do my best there yeah so do it second thing is like do it only 100 do it properly do it properly or let it be that's the second thing another point i would say find the not not even the best teacher but find the people around which one have the same passion which one are on the same level and which one which one like to do that okay people today i mean helpers go and ask the best ones because they think that's the best way no not all the time you can become first you need to concrete first these dirty things for that is enough just the region local club yeah okay so go somewhere where you feel good where somebody can help you where you feel they can help you and then go up don't want to be from one to second e and b right now right another thing have a passion okay you don't see progress today doesn't matter okay conor mcgregor doesn't make it between one day part of the journey that's it have a passion and for for me i'm i'm saying like my personality whole my life is challenge and i love challenge if something is too easy too easy easy is not my way okay so see it like a challenge for you and go for that you can concrete anything just here you need to be sure that will happen if you have some goal give that date to that make a date for this okay if you have a date it's already even and it will happen right right and and you have to work dogs you cannot yeah i talk only about train three dogs yeah in in two weeks and expect that you're gonna be great right practice practice this is this is the bar and dogs yeah you cannot yeah just because you work the same two dogs all the time yeah man that that was like i really pressured and i have to say that i i feel the need to say that man i was 13 14 okay they let the dog just go and bark to me and something feeling and but you know puppies in my opinion helper has to come and feel the puppy i give you my hand pull do you have that feeling like a puppy right or you are that strong helpers think i must be strong and you know like 300 sparta no man this is not sparta somebody have to prepare them for that yes so feeling

teaching go somewhere make a helper work board the collies labradors what whatever dogs try your education try try yourself how talented you are yeah read them then go and learn today this mistake in my opinion is like okay you are sportive here is scratch pants it is the sleeve stick go this is escape this is barking this is and you are helper right in two years and then this guy is coming on the field and like i don't know what to do with him he's bark badly do we have to change that dog or what do you mean it's opposite yeah it's opposite and this is the bad way how to be follow and call the helpers and new guys it should be opposite come you want to became be there in plan in that point b you need to have a journey man because this is not easy so that was exactly my way i have seen sleeve sweep pants like a helper after two years until that that was nothing i i man i have no idea how was igp3 igp or igp or ipo in that time ipo yeah it was like a test ig igp1 and ipo 3 and some national nationalists examine like a program which we have in czech republic and i was learning that one week before crazy i have no idea how to do but today everybody knows igp3 and that's it man right okay so i would say i think also helpers when you it's not about focusing only on the on the sleeve you can do you can learn how to interact in protection yeah by simply playing with a dog with a tuck toy like if you can have a good feeling just to play with the dog right and let him win and let him be the king with a king with a toy right but if you cannot how could you make it with the sleeve right that's give me the best point man that's the last point of as you ask me the question how to give give the tips for the yes man you know what i think to good helper to good handler you need to become first a good handler and then you can be good helper yeah that's only my opinion i'm not saying it's the best yes of course there is different if you if you want to be coach if you want to be helper you need to first understand dogs i'm i will not say ugly things like somebody is holding the leash never ever and he's coaching you hey people like you know helpers which one never ever hold the dog handle dog how they can coach you okay this is like big time about get my point yes feel the dog understand your own experience and then give it and postpone it to the people right then go like a coach but how you can coach anyone if you never experience that all is going from that so this is my last point for helpers i have one more

you want to be helper you need to be also handler yes there is one more i think like when when a helper you know when you start and you really want to be very good and improve and you think that you have to work only these top level dogs yeah i think we learn most from the difficult dogs that kind of they are unsure they don't know how and learning how to convince these dogs make you respect and pay attention and just working only the you know the best quality dogs it's a disadvantage when you want to learn no yeah it is uh very long time ago one of the really famous helper in czech republic told me do you think it's different between like cases girl with really excellent dog coming to the coach which one is number one in the world and she became world champion in two years you think is it's relative against to somebody who is coming with the same dog to the pet coaches is it relative and i asked him like what do you mean relative i said is it productive and then i said that second case is productive that first case is just you like a toy it's there yes it's a toy and the same with the helpers and good dogs everybody wants to see themselves oh study on man i've been there it's so cool right for me much better is to watch that dog i made him right right right then my heart is like melting and i am just like full emotional it's it's the artist part and it doesn't matter in the end who is catching that so let's see like today okay who was the winner 10 years ago can you tell me 10 years ago fmbb it's 2012 who won fmbb in 2012 i know it but just get it have a time do you know that would be the worst this i would lose all these questions but but but i remember i in this case i because i choose the question yes it was a little bit cheeky i'm a cheater but in the same time i remember the dog which one i prepare man and i put a concentration there man yes yes there we go that's that that's it and i will be basically saying maybe like people would say who won nobody give a after five years but everybody will remember the owens dogs that was the year i do remember that was the guy i trained him yeah yeah so this could be the motivation this has to be the motivation not to see yourself this is just the peak of the dirt as competitor as a helper man it should be not your goal your goal have to be to become as as much possible be best in the training and prepare the people that's number one it's perfect jani we can we can talk forever yeah we've been talking forever for a month

yeah but i i really wanna thank you for like it's been amazing just watching you do your thing and it's one of these times where i can just be like yeah work my dog i don't i don't need to say anything you and the dog just do the thing that needs to happen because you see it this is where it's the best like um very like all of us very grateful for for what you did and every dog every minute on the field you never regardless of if you were tired or hurt or whatever you never for a moment you can tell like every time 400 percent like every time this is a lot of respect for this man a lot of respect thank you very much thank you very much let me say also another feedback uh one year ago we planned florida winter florida am i right one guys one year that's crazy it it's so crazy uh actually right now in my country is like minus 10 degrees i don't know if you guys understand the greece but it's like how is it it's gotta be 26 or something there it's frozen it is cold it's super cold that is like half of meters snow and you don't want to be there and i i i cannot believe this really happened because one year ago it was actually it was my dream coming once in my life somewhere when it doesn't really matter where but when is my winter time to change the change the session yeah season season season yeah and it's really happening and i will only say thank you for invitated me invitation for hospitality for carrying all the things around i enjoy it was my best time ever in my life very cool and i really pressure especially especially that you guys treat me like like a friend like i'm just coming from that's what's about yeah friends i love it i'm so grateful for that thank you that this is the main point i'm so grateful thank you and i would say you wanna you wanna experience that things just don't be shy and go for that yes everything is possible that's exactly i think that's where we need to end that man beautiful beautiful beautiful so so Thank you.